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Try my cap mod to open up the filter a bit: should be in the build guide. Also: I think these work so much better when varying incoming trig/gate/cv level. Absolutely love these: I've got 4 of them in my main case.

EDITED Jul 25th 2023, 20:19

I would go with the fx section in the MPC. Get to know theyr sounds and capabilities and then get something with a difrent sound colour and posibilities for your rack.
-- Niemandsland

Initially this makes a lot of sense..

really the best reasons to go for in rack effects are - it must be in the rack (portability or OCD issues) or you must have mdulation via CV (woozy modulated reverbs and delays can sound interesting) - or because a specific effect is only available in eurorack format (probably not that many) or you want to experiment with unusual signal paths (effects early in the signal chain before, for example, filtering or waveshaping/folding etc)

but all those can come later...

FYI as specified on their website :

+12V Max Current 10 mA
-12V Max Current 10 mA
+5V Max Current 0 mA

And depth isn't "2cm" (as described here) but "Depth: 4cm" (according to their technical details )

...hope that can help.

EDITED Jul 24th 2023, 21:03

Two filters in one, though they can be chained. This is a passive device, no power used (think - same thing as the tone knob on your electric guitar).
Relatively easy build, through there were two nits about the boards fitting together and the knobs, but overall fine.

Sound-wise, it’s OK. Passive, so not a whole lot of activity, but does produce some mellow filtering. Not going to be in my main rack.

Build

I would go with the fx section in the MPC. Get to know theyr sounds and capabilities and then get something with a difrent sound colour and posibilities for your rack.

Hey, Thank you guys for the quick response.

Probably you'll save me some money by these answers. I already got some of the cheaper modules as a birthday present but I'll stick to those until I'm ready for more.

The Minibrute does not have a FX section, so I feel like I need at least a delay and a reverb and I want it to be outside my DAW. Would you use the on-board-effects of the MPC or go for the Dual FX, for example?

hi Blizz,

I would like to say you have all you need to start with the miniBrute and the MPC. Get to know them, learn how they vould work together before you start filling up your rack. If you know what the MPC and Minibrut can do and how they interact you know what you might want from the modules in your rack. Keep the learning curve small it always helped me in my creativity.

my two cents Niemandsland
-- Niemandsland

I'd very strongly agree with @Niemansland here...

there are a few "issues" with the modules that you've selected - too many (& too large - Magneto - imo) fx for this case... No mixing solutions... not enough modulation... a turing machine, but no quantizer (if you want to use a turing machine for pitch you will need a quantizer to make it play in a particular scale - tune the oscillator to get the set the root note)

when you are ready to commit money to modular - I'd take a look at the hints on how to get the most versatility for the least expenditure in my signature and have a good think about what it's telling you... then try again regarding what modules you want to put in your rack and those you need to support them...

hi Blizz,

I would like to say you have all you need to start with the miniBrute and the MPC. Get to know them, learn how they vould work together before you start filling up your rack. If you know what the MPC and Minibrut can do and how they interact you know what you might want from the modules in your rack. Keep the learning curve small it always helped me in my creativity.

my two cents Niemandsland

Thanks very much.

O.k. they were already in the Pedal section anyway

Would be great if Pladask could be added aswell!

https://www.pladaskelektrisk.com/product/dradd/

Done

Dear community,
I'm a complete modular newbie. After watching the latest tutorial on production with software synths where some guy recommended to measure the kick drum tails in ms to set the side chain more precisely I was finally sick of that. I want more imperfection and haptics. And coming from playing e-bass in metal bands I miss the aspect of live performance, too.

I start the journey with an Arturia MiniBrute 2s combined with the 6U rack. Additionally I'm using the AKAI MPC One. To be honest I have no clue yet, how to make these three work together. So, could anyone tell me if this module compilation is a good start. The idea is to produce fast ambient/hypnotic techno.

--o for mixing I was going o coast, bia, clouds ect into the 3 mix (to set and forget)
As a newbie, I've been here for a little over a year, I agree with these tips. I would like to add, regarding the mixer issue, that for live performance I do not believe, far from it, that the mixer is a patch and forget module.
In case you are not going to use an external mixer, I would recommend a dedicated mixer. You can consider a mixer with its mutes, sends/returns, and very importantly, headphone output.
2HP modules or with many knobs are a nuisance.
Regards and good luck

I would recommend that you revisit a LOT of the beginner posts in this forum, read a LOT of manuals, and watch a LOT of tutorials before investing any money in this.
Have fun and good luck!
-- farkas

+1000

-- JimHowell1970

1000 more :))

so the 1u up top is just there to to sum specs. I plan for 3 rows of 1u next to the disting ex I thought if I'm going to have a screen I might as well fill in the space

I thought the condensed section would be fine bc its closest to the minibrute 2s pach bay I assumed it would be the most cluttered spot inevitably tho I'm definitely making it worse

for lpg I didn't consider CV modulation for some reason so I'll definitely look at some vcas

by 3 mix I meant the little 3 channel mixer next to the mkc8 and with the exmpl of ambient chords I could use the disting or deluge ect to sequence them separately to create chords mix out to deluge or disting for fx

I definitely have a lot to consider and if the racks name is true I hope I dont expand out from 6u both financially and for space

If the thread title is accurate, I would recommend that you do not go into debt for this setup.
Jim's advice mirrors my own. You will be incredibly unhappy with all of those tiny modules side by side, for many reasons.
I would recommend that you revisit a LOT of the beginner posts in this forum, read a LOT of manuals, and watch a LOT of tutorials before investing any money in this.
Have fun and good luck!
-- farkas

+1000

so I planned to make some rails for the 1u in that area and I didn't know I'd need an adapter for power :( if that's what you meant.

no I couldn't tell if you meant it to be a rackbrute with the associated rack wart or a 7u where you'd inadvertantly added an arturia rack wart (that's not available separately)

it sounds like you want to add a 1u row on top of a rackbrute - sounds like a bad idea to me involving disfiguring the rackbrute - either get a 7u rack or drop the 1u

for that condensed area I tried to arange it where i could kinda get to the knobs, I wasn't worried too much bc itll be used for rhythmic noise where modulation would just be re patching. tho the 3 actuator would be a problem

the 'condensed' area is way too crowded - sooner or later, you will hate it

the noise on the intellijel noise tools just seemed like an extra for why its there

partly this was my mistake the paratek noise module looked like 2 modules - in itself, it seems way too crowded - like the designer was having a competition with himself how to get as many knobs, switches and jacks in 8hp as possible

as for the vcas I assumed I could just substitute it with lpgs and bc power I'm still new at this

only if you only want to use them for audio - vcas are really useful for cv too - seriously, do yourself a favour & get a quad cascading vca - veils clone or intellijel etc etc

so for mixing I was going o coast, bia, clouds ect into the 3 mix (to set and forget) - cinnamon filter - mkc8 - minibrute - deluge for this ex. I wanted ambient chords under one filter while Saturn, ect goes straight to mkc8

I think you'll regret the mixing solution

what's the 3 mix? the synthrotek attenuator???

are you expecting o-coast, mia and clouds to give you ambient chords??? not my idea of ambient or chords...

with my setup I don't plan to go outside 6u and the o coast is only a staple bc I've scuffed it up a bit
and thanks for commenting I really needed the perspective.
-- exmpl

we all say that to start with... just a little 6u (or whatever) - then it's the wafer thin mint and it explodes all over the place...

If the thread title is accurate, I would recommend that you do not go into debt for this setup.
Jim's advice mirrors my own. You will be incredibly unhappy with all of those tiny modules side by side, for many reasons.
I would recommend that you revisit a LOT of the beginner posts in this forum, read a LOT of manuals, and watch a LOT of tutorials before investing any money in this.
Have fun and good luck!

so I planned to make some rails for the 1u in that area and I didn't know I'd need an adapter for power :( if that's what you meant.

for that condensed area I tried to arange it where i could kinda get to the knobs, I wasn't worried too much bc itll be used for rhythmic noise where modulation would just be re patching. tho the 3 actuator would be a problem

the noise on the intellijel noise tools just seemed like an extra for why its there

as for the vcas I assumed I could just substitute it with lpgs and bc power I'm still new at this

so for mixing I was going o coast, bia, clouds ect into the 3 mix (to set and forget) - cinnamon filter - mkc8 - minibrute - deluge for this ex. I wanted ambient chords under one filter while Saturn, ect goes straight to mkc8

with my setup I don't plan to go outside 6u and the o coast is only a staple bc I've scuffed it up a bit
and thanks for commenting I really needed the perspective.

Another purchase with @RTFM and as usual, all perfect.

the rackbrute case does not have 1u and the power supply is not sold separately...

better to put the 1u modules in the 1u rail than in an adapter - so you have more space for 3u - just move the disting ex to be near the bigger screen, but I'd only buy that if you need it...

racking semis is a waste of rack space and power...

too many small modules too close together... you are trying to do too much in too small a space... bigger case and bigger modules or just fewer bigger modules - the shitty ergonomics of so many 2hp modules and trimmers instead of pots will make it unplayable... remember 1hp = 1/5" (4.08mm)

do some research on the guy behind synthrotek before buying their modules...

why do you think you need 2 noise sources?

why are there no vcas?

how are you mixing - the deluge, minibrute 2s, the output of the rackbrute6u and the o coast?

take a look at the hints in my signature and spend a considerable time thinking about them... they are a guide to getting the most versatile modular for the least cash...

@farkas @JimHowell1970 @sweelinck yeah for sure getting this piecemeal is the way to go! I'll see how I get on with with whats there at the moment. Disting, the timberal sculptor and a eurorack external input module sounds like a good starting point for kick processing. Pams to follow shortly. I can start with loading samples in the Octatrack as per @obscuremachines (thanks by the way! some cool modules/great advice there) suggestion. I think you're right ahout disting ex - the extra power and slot you get seems like a no brainer

You need to test different approaches and methods and find the best one! It's like in books the path appears under the feet of the walker)))))))
-- GregoryStellar

This is true and wise. Though, from time to time, it’s advisable to look where you set foot :)

im kinda new to eurorack my set up rn is a deluge, minibrute 2s, rackbrute6u and an o coast I want an all around, performance set up but also a friend that does its own thing. So what do ya think are these good accompaniments ?

You need to test different approaches and methods and find the best one! It's like in books the path appears under the feet of the walker)))))))But I'm often busy with plastic here surgery and don't have much time for tests although I do make time for some modifications!

EDITED Jul 28th 2023, 05:53

This is a very powerful new unit from Neutral Labs. 4 wavetable driven voices, a delay unit, a low pass filter, two LFOs, accent, a sequencer, envelope, and their special crunchiness
Driven either with external gating or with the capacitive touchpads not eh front.
Way deep, my demo, were I only scratch the surface, is 30 minutes.

The board has all the SMD components pre-installed, you’lll just be putting a LOT of jacks, pots and switches on. Be aware that there are many tiny SMD components very close to where you’ll need to solder, so you should be a proficient builder to do this kit.

A very fun and dense unit.

Build

EDITED Jul 22nd 2023, 18:59

Does anyone know if channel 2 and 3 spit different max voltages? If it's cloning the MK2 you would think it would, but it's made by the father of all musical equipment corner cutters...

The 4hp Disting interface is terrible. Get the bigger one so you atleast dont have to pull out the manual every time you wanna change it up.

i had to correct the hp and delete cached files. thanks for the help!

Hello. Can Djupviks be added as a manufacturer of modules, and then have these all associated with it:

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=Djupviks&SearchVendor=82&SearchFunction=&SearchSecondaryfunction=&SearchHeight=&SearchTe=&SearchTemethod=max&SearchBuildtype=&SearchLifecycle=&SearchSet=all&SearchMarketplace=&SearchIsmodeled=0&SearchShowothers=0&order=newest&direction=asc

Thanks.

It's a bit clipped but still o.k.?

also would like to remove joke videos

Thats's not possible...

and submit one or 2 that are legitimate

... but you can just post YouTube URLs inside the module description text and they will be rendered as embedded videos.

Hi,

My WMD channels expand is acting weird. it looks like no sounds came out until the slider reach a position between 18 and 12 DB.

It's like it's muted until the slider goes to that level.

Anyone has experienced something like this before? Any ideas?

thanks
Mat

Sorry that this is a bit complicated, the whole version image thing came late to the site and is a bit a mess. If you have a manufacturer account you should be able to delete the version images.
I will try to make it possible that users can delete there own uploaded images. The challenge is to not destroy thousands of existing racks that already have those images assigned.

Thanks

Yes, i was thinking to get the latest from sounfroces

thanks
Ciao
Matteo

Check the drum modules by Sound-Force.. later versions can swap samples if i remember correctly.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/soundforce-s-ld-
this is lindrumm one is my fav

@Delicatessen
More modestly, and to come back to a previously mentioned topic, try first the delays included in the Disting mk4. I join @JimHowell1970 and @farkas to tell you that you won’t be disappointed.

A lot of the records back then were made with old ROMplers and samplers like DMX, DX, LinnDrum, 707, RZ-1, S950, SP1200 etc. So honestly beyond 808/909 you probably just need a sampler module and Sample From Mars all the drums which always goes on sale every Black Friday for I wanna say like under $50 which all sound awesome and has more drums than you could ever need.

I have 100+ improvised techno jams that essentially documented my modular journey. Modular is very individualistic, but maybe I can makes some recommendations that would save you some time and money. I have also circulated over $100,000 of modules over the last 3-4 years, I've had everything from a full set of Mannequins, QMMF-4...a bunch of stuff, more modules than anyone could ever want or need. The goal of my rig was to be able to walk up to it and go.

These are my favs from the whole thing:
Mixer: WMD performance mixer (V2 is coming out by the end of the year and it blows V1 outta the water it's a gamechanger)
Bass drum: Modbase09mkii into Fold6. I also like Bass Drum 2 alot.
Hats: The best hat will be the AMMT Hi hat no contest. Patching Panda Hatz v2 was great for analog hat. I used Pico Drums for hat samples.
Snare: I preferred an analog 808 and used the Noisy Fruit Lab 808 snare
Clap: Erica Clap, could get to a the more minimal side with an envelope/vca
Ride: Started with Erica Cymbals, but accomplished the same with Pico Drums.
Toms: Erica Toms or Pico Drums cause all of the toms modules are huge.
Lead Voice: Piston Honda MKIII, Verbos Complex OSC. Erica Bassline for 303.
Sub Bass: SY0.5
Delay: Sarajewo (this is one of my fav modules all time, sounds incredible)
Reverb: FX Aid, Desmodus Versio
Master bus: TriTone for EQ+ Saturation, Overseer/SCLPL for DJ filter, MSCL master bus compression.
Other: Natural Gate, Sinc Bucina, Kermit MKIII.
Pitch Sequencer: Ornament and Crime with Logarythm branch of Hemipshere Suite running TB3P0 (random instant 303 sequences). I would've been interested to check out the Precision Disruptor, but didn't get a chance. This would likely be better than the TB3P0, but of course is huge.
Drum sequencer: Metron, Varigate 4 or 8, Erica Drum Sequencer
Master clock: Pam's Pro

I went from a 104 7u to 18U of Doepfer Monster cases, and have used as little as 42hp 4u to accomplish the same things, drums, voices, mastering and all. It's all in the playlist. This is all Detroit/Acid techno kinda vibes sometimes minimal. My approach was to do it as fast as possible to jam every day. I think the modules you get will depend on your goals. Do you want a noodle box for sounds or do you want to smash out beats? I've heard a lot of modulat techno setups, but I always chased a heavy sound...it had to be fat. The most fun I had was exploiting modules to their max like Pamela's Pro Workout and Kermit. I could sequence drums AND synth voices with Pam's. Did you know there's a way to turn Pam's into a Turing Machine? Stuff like that...The biggest mistake was buying a new module to solve a new problem, when I in fact had solutions already in my setup.

It's very individualistic, but the only way to truly know is to have a module in your case and patch it up. There's no reason to buy all of the stuff at once either. I listen back and I preferred my sound back when it was stripped down vs the monster setup. You said you have Octatrack already, try and use that for drums to start with and then just get a Pam's and build up a synth voice to your liking and see how that goes and expand from there. That was the best part! Hope this helps best of luck!

EDITED Jul 21st 2023, 03:46

I used the tape delay in disting for ages - and still do, even though I've also got a magneto now - & 2 fx aids ... it's very good for what it is...

-- JimHowell1970

For sure. The tape delay, tuner, and quantizer were about the only algorithms I was using before I sold Disting. Sounds really good.

+1: I have a private module in prototype phase that I'm constantly updating the panel image. It would be great to clear out the old panel designs, especially as I get closer to making the module available / public.

id like to know this too. maybe deleting and resubmitting?

i up loaded a new plugin here https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-pac-bot-2 and added it to my rack. the top and bottom are clipped. any ideas? also would like to remove joke videos and submit one or 2 that are legitimate

thanks

EDITED Jul 20th 2023, 20:21

Ah, tnx i get it. Tnx for the reply ! Im looking more for something more easy and less damging to my cases. As in, unscrewing evry time i need the case, thats gonna make some damage.

-- Gijsja

in your first post you said ...i dont mind drilling in yhe cases...
the "damage" would be 2 holes on each case edge that has to be connected (a total of 8 holes)
attaching and removing a metric screw within a metric nut does not cause any further damage.

EDITED Jul 20th 2023, 18:16

still would like a dedicated delay so will probably chuck that in.
-- Delicatessen

Remember that you can flash the Ruina Versio to several different delay modules, plus you have Mimeophon and the FX Aid and Disting, which both have several great delays. I still think you might be trying to double (or triple) up on too many functions for the space you have available to start. Again, it's your synth. I just know what did and didn't work for me. I made a lot of the noob mistakes.
Hope you have fun building your synth!

-- farkas

I used the tape delay in disting for ages - and still do, even though I've also got a magneto now - & 2 fx aids ... it's very good for what it is...

I think we all make newb mistakes... but asking questions etc on here and/or other forums can reduce and mitigate them quite a bit...

Also starting slowly (for example getting just the melodic voice to start) and learning how to patch that etc before starting on the percussion side may help...

as @farkas said... hope you have fun building (and playing) your synth!

Picture of the cases may help. But take a look at latches made by Penn Elcom https://www.penn-elcom.com/default.asp?MC=01020101&LG=EN

They should be strong enough to keep a case on its place. Not speaking from personal experience, but I have seen it used that way.

I think those panel locks are especially good for something like this.

Ah, tnx i get it. Tnx for the reply ! Im looking more for something more easy and less damging to my cases. As in, unscrewing evry time i need the case, thats gonna make some damage.

still would like a dedicated delay so will probably chuck that in.
-- Delicatessen

Remember that you can flash the Ruina Versio to several different delay modules, plus you have Mimeophon and the FX Aid and Disting, which both have several great delays. I still think you might be trying to double (or triple) up on too many functions for the space you have available to start. Again, it's your synth. I just know what did and didn't work for me. I made a lot of the noob mistakes.
Hope you have fun building your synth!

If you got the modules available musicradar did a great article on patching your own 808/909 style drums. Can do a ton with just a noise module through a multimode filter... https://www.musicradar.com/how-to/how-to-recreate-classic-analogue-drum-sounds-in-your-daw-and-with-hardware

Fantastic advice and arguments here. Wish I knew more to contribute, but i'm sure that knowledge will come! I've always loved hardware synths but the modular world is an entirely different beast, and hey i'm in the market for a new hobby. For me, having the versatility to patch modules in unexpected ways to create something is the allure of modular

Thanks so much again guys, really appreciate the feedback. Yep I fell into the classic camp of wanting to cram as much stuff in, and even with my tiny hands I can definitely see fruststion arising with the wirey mess to come. Love all the suggestions and i'm in the process of modifying @farkas plan to something tuned to my workflow, eg still would like a dedicated delay so will probably chuck that in. Thanks for taking the time out to put something together, completely unexpected and a lovely thing to do. Obviously this plan will change as my needs grow and i start experimenting but in this for long haul