this is a sick unit ...weird and very cool noise source . pll implementation is brilliant
3 or 4 of these in a rack = :) sweet pll madness

Rack Lock

There is a new button Rack Lock besides the Popover and Space Guides button.
If that button is activated it just locks your rack from further edits. That is useful for mobile devices where you could easily break your layouts when swiping over your rack.
The state of the lock is globally saved in the database for all of your racks.

I started with a MicroBrute, and now have one M32 and another on the way, supplemented by some modules for utilities and more timbres. My goal is to have a nice hardware mono synth based around the Moog sound and filter. I've owned other modules but am downsizing - although I've tried various filters and oscillators, I always came back to the M32 filter because it sounds absolutely fantastic, as do the oscillators!

If you put a bit of time in to learn the sequencer, it's not too slow either, and is very powerful for the price of the M32! If I really want to jot down a sequence asap, I use the insanely easy MicroBrute sequencer.

If you still use Ableton, I recommend looking at a MicroBrute as a controller - you get a small keyboard, pitch and mod wheels, an LFO that syncs to Ableton's tempo (not many LFOs actually sync in eurorack), and of course the extra envelope, waveforms with various timbre shaping, and the nice little sequencer. It's cheap as heck too, I got one for under £150 on eBay.

If you want to get individual modules, buy them secondhand, look after them, and if you don't like them, sell them on modulargrid or muffwiggler for the same price, so that you break even or lose only a tiny bit of money. It's worth the journey and you will never end up with what you thought you needed.

Just my 2 cents!

How about a section in the search criteria for expansion boards for modules?
I guess that parameter could be tacked on to the description pop-up in the rack. It'd be useful to be able to search for this because of the nature of expansions being a plus (or minus) toward the decision to include a module in your rack.
-- Sandrine

You mean to signify whether a module has an internal* expansion on it or not? You can always add that as part of the available info on the module itself and then link to the original site with more info on the expansion.

I'm not sure I'm following. By the way, there aren't a lot of modules with internal* expansions - yours and a handful of others are the entirety in Eurorack.

*I'm unsure if you mean expansions like the MIDI option on your VCO or expanders/break-out modules like the others available on MG. The latter are always posted as separate modules and tagged as such.

EDITED Oct 2nd 2017, 10:20

Just go to www.addacsystem.com there is a way to buy their modules from them directly both in EU or US.

Those with a keen eye will notice I've stolen a lot of influences from Severance here, I wanted to build a system around the Benjolin Module, so half of the modules are what I've managed to spot from youtube videos and the rest I'm making up as I go along. Usually by the time I post these racks I like to have all the gaps filled but I've left myself around 30hp here to add/swap out as necessary given any feedback received as to where I've gone horribly wrong, I seem to have developed a keenness for the MMG in my builds. As always, Thanks for any input/comments. Keep patching. (Click for full picture)

EDITED Oct 1st 2017, 21:44

Thanks for the input, I'm years away from ever getting as far as a build like this, which is why I'm putting in the hours now researching and learning as much as possible. By the time I get to looking at even a 2 x 104 I hope I should know what I'm doing.
Keep Patching.

You'd be surprised, honestly.
If you want to just set a drum rhythm going and that's it you won't need many, but as soon as you want to modulate the drums - change an 808 drive amount over time or whatever - the VCA usage starts stacking up!

I put andore, germanium and three veils, how many more VCAs does one man need :D

hi!!! I'm having some troubles with my make noise Rene, it does a couple of circles and then jumps some step, especially when I press on the menu buttons, I don't know if it´s me or what to do.
Hope someone can give some answers.

Tanks!!

After glancing at it, you most likely need more VCAs and mixers - it's difficult to get too many, especially with the amount of mod sources you have!

Hi.
I was in Portugal travelling, buy it direct in the Lisbon headquarters. Now I need a second one, yes its not possible to get it from stores. But i think is really easy to buy direct from ADDAC System.
cheers

Exactly, you explained it better than me, like a glissando. Fine movement between the set notes. That's what I imagined.

Thank you for your input!
So the knob would still be an offset that is not quantized, but all quantized notes would still be semitones with respect to each other. That's well worth considering as the offset can be full range, or just 1V (another option limits the knob's deviation) so would be easy to handle.
I had thought of a different action for the knob when there is no CV input patched in. The knob (while quantizing option is on) becomes quantized to be useful (like a glissando) but now not so sure ;)

Big thanks.

I'm going to expand my system, can I have some advise what to add/remove? Thanks!

Hey, good to hear you are moving along with this, I haven't got any racks yet, but if you were looking down that route, I would think a couple of twin racks with a mix of VCO and Filters in each, that way each can be used as a stand alone for smaller scenarios, but doubled up for the full orchestra so to speak. The answer I think will always be get more space, down the line more modules will appear as money allows, build one 2 x 104 to start, then build another and stack stack stack.

hey guys, thank you very much for the suggestions. i got my hands on a mutable instruments veils. it will take place as mixer for the voices. the ornament and crime will work as my ADSR module. and i came to the conclusion to just change my workflow (if using without octatrack) to not ''switch'' the voices on and off.
Now im just wondering if i could make room for an Intellijel shapeshifter or should i make an extra case..... :-/

has anyone of you a case just with VCOs and a separate case for filters / effects? would that be a logical (playable) approach?

Would something like the WMD Triple Bipolar VCA help? https://www.modulargrid.net/e/wmd-triple-bipolar-vca There are no kill switches, but you could CV the VCA to a Maths (or another utility) to control with the rise and fall.

EDITED Sep 29th 2017, 19:21

Is this the current incarnation? I noticed three examples under this name. I'm a noobie so can't give technical answers, but you mentioned a mixer with switches. The Synthrotek MST 4-Channel Audio / CV Mixer has an On/Off switch for each channel. it's only 8hp so still leaves 11hp for a Quad VCA or other toys. Good luck with the build. Keep Patching.

DR-670 Drum Machine
BeatStep Pro
Mother 32
Phonogene
Maths
Woggle Bug
Circuit Bent VCO
Pico VCO
Clouds
Pico DSP

Sounds like a cool module that is right up my alley. Could you simply revise the first option and go with the third, while incorporating the off-set knob from the second option? That is, when turned on, quantizing all notes, but with an off-set knob to deviate after full quantization has taken place? It seems like it would have better applications for live performance this way. Either way, I would love to see some video of the module.

EDITED Sep 29th 2017, 15:47

I am presently developing the RIT M Rhythm Sequencer module ( by SDS Digital here on MG) and have reached an impasse and need some suggestions to help decide which way to go.
The RIT M is in part also a CV recorder that takes a CV + a CV offset knob and outputs it during record or playback. There is a beat quantizer option that can be turned on/off, but also I'm considering a 1V/Octave quantizer option for the CV.
There's three ways to do this, having the offset knob quantized so it steps in semitones, or having the the CV quantized and using the CV offset knob to move between semitones, and lastly quantize everything so only 1V/octave emerges when this option is turned on.
It's a real can of worms which is why I'm pivotal on it. Any thoughts anyone?

EDITED Sep 29th 2017, 14:14

How about a section in the search criteria for expansion boards for modules?
I guess that parameter could be tacked on to the description pop-up in the rack. It'd be useful to be able to search for this because of the nature of expansions being a plus (or minus) toward the decision to include a module in your rack.

hi.
I use the ADDAC200PI, works really good. Never had a problem with this module.
-- Luis

Hi Luis,
Thanks for your response about the ADDAC200PI, if I can get it somewhat easy it looks like I will go with that now.
How did you find it to get hold of the ADDAC200PI? Did you buy direct from ADDAC System, or was it in stock somewhere else?
Thanks again for your advice!

Recently bought a 2HP Batumi Expander from the friendly @echox. Thanks a lot for the smooth transaction!

hi.
I use the ADDAC200PI, works really good. Never had a problem with this module.

DR-670 Drum Machine
BeatStep Pro
Mother 32
Phonogene
Maths
Woggle Bug
Circuit Bent VCO
Pico VCO
Clouds
Pico DSP

EDITED Sep 29th 2017, 15:54

Following my earlier discovery that Synth god Jean-Michel Jarre is also a big fan of Erica Synths modules, I decided to brew up a dedicated noise machine for myself.
Why don't you give it a Zoolook...
Keep Patching.

Seems to me it shouldn't even say that. Digital delays are very different from bucket brigade devices both in how they work and how they usually sound, and if the PT2399 can be called "bucket-brigade style" then the term is meaningless. We might as well call a spring reverb "digital style" - it would be equally true.

Just to add my 2p... Smooth & friendly sellers I did buy from over the last 6m or so:
@igorsv
@empirix
@damir501
@schroeder
@pibou
@highlight
@str101 (assuming the Disting will be ok :-) ).
Thanks all!

A 2 x 104 based around a Moog Module.
Comments as always welcome. What's missing? What's unnecessary?
Keep Patching.
(For some reason I'm not seeing some of the modules in this preview, click on pic if blank spaces visible)

EDITED Sep 27th 2017, 21:32

Just another poke about. An attempt to build something that would make Psytrance.
Probably overkill on some things and missing vital components, but I'm enjoying trying to figure things out/fill the rack.
Comments welcome.
Keep on patching.

I would have to respectfully disagree. IMO, running a site is not simply about building an environment where people can interact as they please; that is, if I can get away with it, then it is fair game. One would imagine that the site operator would create an environment where people would want to come visit and feel secure exchanging money and items. Mandating secure exchanges between users does not in anyway make ModularGrid liable for outcomes. In fact, providing a safe haven for con-artists and then throwing up your hands because the careless buyer did not see the con coming is far more legally hazardous. This is not about being a good or bad netizen either; it is about commerce and growing/maintaining a site. More buyers and sellers will participate in the market if there are protections in place–protections that ModularGrid has no role in providing or enforcing, which decreases the work load entailed in responding to user complaints, while potentially increasing traffic. PayPal and other services have provided an infrastructure to avoid these problems, and it is a solution that decreases rather than increases a buyer's risk, and decreases rather than increases the site's need to attend to these issues. A solution to a con that says, "Treat buyer's like adults and demand they be more discerning," is a solution with an unacceptable fail rate. If the site operator wants to limit rip-off artists from setting up camp in their market, requiring accountability is the way to go. Don't get me wrong, I am totally fine with things as they are. I've never had an issue, but if things are left as they are, then the site operator will continue to field emails and messages about the thieves and bad actors in our midst. If the this thread's purpose was to discuss changes to the status quo, then there is a solution.

EDITED Sep 28th 2017, 03:00

I think that paypal's buyer protection on the goods/services buying option is a way to instill some confidence in a buyer. If the seller refuses to accept goods/services than I take the extra 3.5% or so of pp's charges for the seller. If the seller STILL refuses to accept the commercial payment I start getting very selective. Only when the seller has a track record of good conduct I will buy from him. Once I had more than one successful transaction I will gladly go to friends/family. Never had a bad transaction that way.

While it may be possible to make the commercial transaction mandatory, as forum operator I wouldn't go there. The only safe way for him is to strictly keep out of any legal involvement in forum member's dealings.

Well, in the end every one is responsible for his actions and any consequences thereof. When I'm buying from a forum member I will always check:

• date of registration
• number of posts
• number of racks
• accounts on other forums
• other traces of activity on the internets

If all that amounts to a profile of a well behaved active netizen with a good reputation all around I will buy.
If it doesn't I will move on. While no single item on the list is a a reliable indicator, all of them will tell me.

In other words, if I buy without protection from a member who registered just shortly, with no references to other internet activities, has made 0 posts, rated 0 modules, has 1 empty rack but a dozen modules on offer for cheap --- I'm probably very stupid.

Mhm. The manufacture page says "bucket-brigade style".

Would it be possible to simply require commercial payment via PayPal or other services that allow arbitration through their infrastructure so you do not have to deal with it and we can have confidence in our purchase? If someone is unwilling to sell via a commercial account, perhaps their listing is too risky for everyone involved. I have purchased via the market place and did not have an issue, but I paid via the PayPal business option.

-FF

I found the solution. There is a three pin header on the pcb near the Orig. knob that ought to have a pin jumper connecting two of the three pins to either 1) force a square wave on the incoming signal or 2) pass the original signal through. The jumper was missing from my module when it arrived. Without the jumper between the pins, the signal will not be controlled by the Orig. knob. I contacted the manufacturer and he suggested I take a jumper from a two pin header located behind the F/4 knob, which controls the AC/DC output. This jumper is not necessary for audio performance so I just slipped the jumper off the two pin header and used it on the three pin header as a work around. They are going to send me a replacement. Thanks for looking into it.

-FF

I think original should output the original sound. I sold my module a while ago and can not remember exactly but did you read the Doepfer manual? Maybe it is more clearer then.

Hey man, Thanks for the reply. appreciate the feedback. That is a tasty little starter rig. If I ever get an opportunity to make a start in a real life build I will begin with a twin 104 definitely, then make another to stack on top :D I don't think I'll ever get to a studio wall build, my main interest is to make some instruments to gig with.
Keep Patching.

Thanks!

How the F do I preorder one?

Good call on the price gents!

seems like you have thought of everything you need in a complete startout-system.
i see vco's, vca's, filter, mod sources and a sequencer so that will make sounds for sure =)

the only advice i can give you is start as small as you can (module wise, a big case is nice ;D) and then let your system guide you to the next modules.

maybe you an use my little starter rig i am currently building as an inspiration:

i tried to fit as much basic features as possible into a 2x104HP makenoise skiff.
my plan is to get this finished and then get a big ass studio case and expand from there ;)

EDITED Sep 26th 2017, 04:42

Dear Synthesists,

I recently acquired a Doepfer A-115 Audio Divider. The four frequency sub-dividers work wonderfully, however the original attenuator seems to do nothing. Is there something I am missing? If all other knobs are "off" and the "Orig." is on, shouldn't there be a sound? If all other attenuators are producing sound, and I turn up the "Orig." knob, shouldn't I be hearing an effect on the signal?

Thanks for any help.
FF

I put a foot on the slippery slope. I started watching youtube videos for the Monotrons I'm currently messing around with, and one thing led to another, videos of them connected up to an MS20 mini, tried one in shop, didn't think much of it, I found the map and choices of connections very confusing opposed to the videos of fully modular synths I'd started seeing as suggestions. But you all know the score, that's why you are here too, modular is ADDICTIVE. I don't even have a single module yet and I can't stop watching videos, trying to discover if I could make the stuff going around in my head come to life given the opportunity.
So here I am, piecing together a 4 tier rack for shits n giggles. I probably have too many things I don't need and am missing vital things I do. It's all just daydreaming anyway. Feel free to laugh at my setup. If you want to add constructive comments, please do. I'm sure there are more important newcomers who need your expert advice. For now, I'm just pipe dreaming and gathering ideas.
Keep on patching.
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_516918.jpg

How the sound comes out of the rack shouldn't really be an issue - you can just plug the output of whichever module is last in your chain (in your case, probably the mixer) into whatever you're using - a PA system if you're doing a live performance, PC-style speaks for noodling around at home, etc. The modular's native level is a fair bit hotter than what people call "line" level, so you may have to turn down the volume a bit, but it normally works well. Buying a module specifically for "output" is seldom necessary.
I wouldn't buy two Mother-32s for a new rack - I'd rather have more variety - but if you already own them, okay.

Or just get an Envelope Follower??

Oh meanwhile I have the uzeus powering teo small mothers cases. Works ok for me and powers two rows of 60 Hp.
Actually it looks like this at the moment:

https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_480588.jpg

EDITED Sep 25th 2017, 20:45

He has since removed all of his modules.

I have send him a message he did not answer so I have removed his module offers.

EDITED Sep 25th 2017, 13:38