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Thank you Sacguy71! Yes indeed, Doepfer is great for the "basic" stuff but can do much more than one would think on first sight. Also, as you mentioned, it can be used for testing indeed. To me, Doepfer modules are solid and good workers :-)
With this patch (nothing special indeed) and the track that goes with it, I just wanted to show the basic sounds compared to the other patch and sound I created for the same module. So if one is looking for this module, one can listen at it and decide if that's an oscillator that might be interesting. This kind of "concept" I might do for more modules in the future.
Kind regards, Garfield.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
You are welcome. I just listened to your new track, nice jam by the way, and it sounds to me you take the feedback at your heart. Well done, more variation on the drums indeed. He, he, I like your tracks, full with interesting and funny sounds. It makes the listener to wants more :-) !
Have a good weekend, I hope to hearing more from you and kind regards, Garfield.
P.S.: I saw your other new post as well, I will not reply to that one since this post and that new post is about the same track.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
I agree the drums need more work, overall I was focused on the tones and seeing if I could get a nice groove going there...
I just did a new jam (on my most recently published setup)... with that jam I started to do small variations on the kick and hats. .
During this short jam , I was much more aware of the need to start changing that up a bit more.
So I really appreciate the feedback.
Here is a newer song where I was starting to do a little more drum variation.
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Thank you again for the feedback.
Much appreciated.
I decided to do a jam just using the MCO, two different patterns from the Euclidian circles into the VCA, and then used the envelopes from the VCAs to both cutoff the audio but also the filter and drive the filter FM level.
Overall I liked today's quick jam.
Check it out here:
I was also attempting to ensure that I could have a little better change in the kick and hats this time.
More to go, but always fun!
Cool stuff Garfield! I love using my Doepfer A110-2 VCO for testing out weird new LFOs and filters. Since they have a basic vanilla flavor they are great for that basic ingredient to see how whacked out I can shape the tone.
+1 on the bigger rack. And instead of this one, have a look at 4ms's Pods, some of which are already powered, which eliminates the need for the uZeus on the front panel. This recovers 4 hp...and in a rig this small, 4 hp is A LOT.
Nicely done! At first glance, one might be tempted to ding it for being short on linear VCAs, but then there's several VCAs in the tile rows, plus the subsystems in the mixer do lots of audio-type heavy lifting. Even so, dropping something like an Erogenous VC8 in there would really punch up the CV/mod handling craziness and add some mixing/attenuverters to those signal paths. And actually, this has the room for the entire Erogenous Tones audio/CV lineup of VC8, Levit8, Radar and Blip if you can find enough to drop or leave room for in the future expansion.
-- Lugia
Thank you! Yes, I fully agree; when I put together this new system in January, my focus was essentially just on getting as many oscillators into this case as possible, because I was working on some sample libraries at that time. However, the system is definitely lacking a few elements such as VCAs. The 1U are good options and the WMD Mixer VCAs are ok in a pinch - but just not the same.
So keeping that in mind, my plan was/is to expand the system in January. I'll reconfigure this case to fine tune the functions more toward my songwriting workflow, which definitely necessitates more VCAs - and definitely more envelopes (particularly more standard ones). In the expansion case, I'll be adding all the odds and ends that didn't make it into this case, of which there are quite a few. I'll definitely post that case when it comes together in a few months.
Nicely done! At first glance, one might be tempted to ding it for being short on linear VCAs, but then there's several VCAs in the tile rows, plus the subsystems in the mixer do lots of audio-type heavy lifting. Even so, dropping something like an Erogenous VC8 in there would really punch up the CV/mod handling craziness and add some mixing/attenuverters to those signal paths. And actually, this has the room for the entire Erogenous Tones audio/CV lineup of VC8, Levit8, Radar and Blip if you can find enough to drop or leave room for in the future expansion.
This is a simple demo of the 4 waves/sounds of the Doepfer's A-110-1 module. The sounds were made without any other module other than the Doepfer - A-138p & A-138o mixer set and the Intellijel - Audio I/O module to output the sound from the Eurorack to an external mixer.
These first 4 sounds (saw, square, triangle & sine) were made without any effects. After these sounds, the square wave followed again, this time however a medium strong (external) reverb has been added.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
Wow, you got some really amazing and good stuff here in your above tracks. From all, the first one is seriously blowing me away, so good! Partly it reminds me of you becoming the new Jean-Michel Jarre, in a bit modern way :-)
The experimental track with those "metal instruments", is a lot of fun, I love those... what are they? Mattress spirals? :-)
By the way, you got yourself a nice rack here, very interesting to look at. The two Intellijel - Planer 2s look like that is your "control centre"
Nicely done and I look forward in hearing more from you! Kind regards and have a good weekend, Garfield Modular.
-- GarfieldModular
Thanks so much for your kind comments and feedback - I genuinely appreciate it!
The metal instruments are made by MorfBeats - I have various videos of them on my social channels (IG and FB in particular)..
This system is my latest - I've been into Euro since 2007 so I've owned and sold a lot of entire systems for various reasons over the years. Anyway this case is getting expanded soon because there are various types of functions missing (I had always intended to add to this - the initial module choices were skewed toward oscillators because of what I was working on for work at the time).
Anyway thanks again for listening - I'll be posting more! Cheers :)
I was hoping I could today (Friday) test the Endorphin.es - Ground Control sequencer as it should have been available today at my local dealer. The availability date has been moved to mid October instead :-(
I start wondering if this module every will be released... same for the Erica Synths - Black Sequencer, that one is still not available either.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
The knob positions show the start position. The Doepfer - A-113 is optional and can be left out (voice 3/channel 3).
Move the Doepfer - A-145-1 LFO frequency range switch from low to medium and then start to move the frequency knob from about two slowly all the way to 10. Let the sound stabilise a bit in this 10 position. Then set the LFO frequency range switch to high and immediately lower down the LFO frequency knob to 8 then slowly turn it to position 6, somewhere there slow down till you find a nice matching harmonic sound.
The above causes a quite high tone/pitch. If one doesn't use the A-113 then consider to set the A-111-2 Octave range switch to 0 (zero) position and the A-110-1 Octave range switch to -1 or -2, this gives a bit deeper tone.
Edit: Once published it seems that the rack-patch-overview can't be updated anymore, at least not hear at this post, pity. The volumes of the Doepfer - A-138p settings are wrong, please set channel 1 at 6 (A-110-1), channel 2 at 4 (A-111-2) and optional channel 3 between 8 and 10 (A-113).
Edit2: The output of the Audio Output module (Intellijel) has been led to an external reverb (medium strong reverb) before it went into the external mixer; no further sound editing has been done for this patch/sound demo.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
Wow, you got some really amazing and good stuff here in your above tracks. From all, the first one is seriously blowing me away, so good! Partly it reminds me of you becoming the new Jean-Michel Jarre, in a bit modern way :-)
The experimental track with those "metal instruments", is a lot of fun, I love those... what are they? Mattress spirals? :-)
By the way, you got yourself a nice rack here, very interesting to look at. The two Intellijel - Planer 2s look like that is your "control centre"
Nicely done and I look forward in hearing more from you! Kind regards and have a good weekend, Garfield Modular.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
Nice! Heck with the massive size of the cool modules in Eurorack these days and given how fast that I fill up a 6U rack easily, my next setup will be a massive 12u-14u portable rig. That way I can get the fun large modules and support tools as well as a proper sequencer and mixer on one setup.
Here's one where I am incorporating some of my metal instruments - they are hooked into the modular via two Barcus-Berry contact mics into the Joranalogue Receive 2.
I love these small rack problems a lot, and @lugia put together a great answer. I took a crack at how I'd do the same, building off his, which you can see below:
I swapped the Doepfer A-119 for a Mutable Instruments Ears, adding a playability factor (contact mic + delay + EQs = fun), and an Instruo Ochd which adds a ton of extra modulation. The main question here is if the preamps stack up and the value of the extra features in the A-119's envelope follower compared to those in the Time Warp.
I swapped the TipTop One for a Disting Mk4 which'll cover a zillion bases in a small rack like this and which can also function as a sample player.
Anyway, I'm curious what other people think too, interesting problem.
I was playing around with my Doepfer - A-110-1 standard VCO module. I made this (A-110-1) module the slave of yet another Doepfer VCO, the A-111-2 VCO. Both modules are using square waves. The beginning till about two/third of the track I use a quite high pitch, so please be careful to put the volume not too high, your ears might not like this track then...
In this demo track using Doepfer modules only, okay and the Intellijel - Audio I/O to export the sound from the Eurorack to an external mixer :-)
3 voices used here:
Main voice - Doepfer - A-110-1 Standard VCO (PWM by Doepfer A-145-1 LFO)
Voice #2 - Doepfer - A-111-2 VCO (on the back ground as well as "feeding" it's square wave to the A-113)
Voice #3 - Doepfer - A-113 Subharmonic Generator (about halfway the track it "kicks in", controlled by the A-111-2)
These 3 voices were then mixed in the Doepfer mixer set - A-138p & A-138o via an external reverb to the external mixer.
Why I am using a "simple" module like the A-110-1? Well exactly because of that, trying to show that even with Doepfer "standard" stuff, one can have some fun with it.
I hope this makes you "hungry" for the more simple and affordable Doepfer modules ;-) Thank you very much for listening and kind regards, Garfield.
Edit: Forgot to mention the LFO, just added
Edit2: Link to the patch overview of this demo track: https://www.modulargrid.net/forum/posts/index/9064
Edit3: Typo in the Doepfer mixer set, should be A-113p & o but A-138p & A-138o
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
Better idea:
I expanded this into a 4ms Pod48X, which eliminates the power on the front panel. I kept the Lubadh and its expander, but went a lot further with everything else. The extra 6 hp was far more useful than you might think...
The Doepfer A-119 not only gives you an input preamp, it also has an envelope follower with loudness contour and gate outputs for using those factors for more internal modulation. After it, I added a Tiptop ONE, which now gives you the ability to store and reuse sources, either placed on its MicroSD from outside or sampled internally.
After the ONE, there's a VOID MicroWulf for adding distortion, waveshaping to your mono audio source. Then I tossed the Noise Engineering Dezi Arnez for a WMD Time Warp, which offers dual AR envelopes/LFOs under voltage control. More versatile, even minus the random capabilities of the other.
After the Lubadh, I also changed things up considerably. Since the Lubadh can have a stereo output, I added a WMD SCLPL, which is an excellent dual multimode VCF that should pair much better with the Lubadh's outs. And since the system would now be outputting a stereo signal, I went with a Happy Nerding Isolator, which also offers groundlifts and transformer isolation for better audio performance under variable conditions, such as live gigging. Seems a lot more powerful to me now...
The Holden patch is wonderful if you sequence from Ableton Live! I unfortunately don’t, so I’ve picked oscillators with sturdy knobs (Even VCO!) and ditched the ones with big, eager knobs (so long, STO!). You can also pull the knobs off your modules. It looks slightly less charming, but it helps.
I’ve got a guitar tuner on the pre-fader send of my mixer so I can just pull a fader down and silently tune my VCO whenever things are getting fishy. That’s truly a live safer! (Pun intended)
James Holden has a way around it but he uses Max for live with an Expert Sleepers module between his modular and the computer.
So I think the Max For Live patch overides the tuning of the oscillator and basically keeps in tune all the time. Have to use a laptop though!
Full documentation and download here: https://llllllll.co/t/realtime-self-tuning-midi-to-cv-max-gen/25407
James Holden has a way around it but he uses Max for live with an Expert Sleepers module between his modular and the computer.
So I think the Max For Live patch overides the tuning of the oscillator and basically keeps in tune all the time. Have to use a laptop though!
Full documentation and download here: https://llllllll.co/t/realtime-self-tuning-midi-to-cv-max-gen/25407
Hi Garfield! Thanks a lot! Glad you like it.
I also like the sound of this track. Therefore, I am planning to do some more compositions in this style.
But I think my next track will be completely different from what I did before. I'm finishing it now and I think it will be ready for Halloween :)
I recommend saving up for a Doepfer A100 Basic system 1. That is what I did and was under 2k and included a great case/power, basic modules from Doepfer plus 84HP free to add whatever special modules desired. It came with the essentials like a dual VCA, MIDI to CV which is super useful to connect to an Octatrack that I have in my studio as well plus a decent filter, VCO, LFO, envelope and mixer module.
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with the Sherman Filterbank with me. It actually sounds like an interesting distortion box pity though for the difficulties to incorporate it into a Eurorack...
Thank you and kind regards, Garfield.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
If the budget in question is around EUR 800, it seems to me that you might get loads more out of one of two possibilities...
1) A patchable. These can be pretty potent devices...and the pairing of the Make Noise 0-Coast and 0-Ctrl are being referred to by some as the "0-Easel", after the Buchla Sound Easel. There's some others that kill, too...Platypus's ANTS!, if you can find one, or Kilpatrick's gateway-drug-for-Serge, the Phenol.
2) Not Eurorack. Instead: https://www.tangiblewaves.com/ The nice thing about the AE system is that it mainly consists of "primitives", or the devices behind the "nicer" modules that make them do what they do. Ergo, it's easier to build with, it's WAAAAAAAAY cheaper, and in the end you don't really give up much by going with AE than Eurorack. For example, the Maths...you could do much of what it does with two AE SLOPE/EDGE modules and some logic and CV mixing. Plus, the AE Starter2 goes for a mindwrenchingly-cheap EUR 435...WITH VAT...and has ample room for more modules. AE also has Dove Audio working with them on a killer wavetable VCO, and others developing other 3rd-party modules...because the system, like Eurorack, is a 100% open standard. And they're DIY-friendly...they even have a prototyping module, the BR[AE]DBOARD.
Thanks for listening Garfield. With enough modulation anything is possible :)
I like the Filterbank a lot but it is less flexible than you might hope. If you want smooth creamy sounds better look elsewhere. If you want disgusting filth, the Sherman has you covered. Probably better to treat it as a distortion box that contains a filter rather than a filter per se. (I have one of the original model Filterbanks; I have heard the mk.2 version has a wider usable range of sounds.) I bought it along time before I got into Eurorack, so I'm sure there is a module that can do similar things, but I don't know what module that it is. It has some decent possibilities for external modulation, but at line level, so it's a bit of a pain to incorporate into a Eurorack setup.
Even as cheap as the B. 2 x 140 hp is, you're still paying extra to house and power the M32 in this setup. Not cost-efficient. Leave the Eurorack cab for the things that NEED it, and keep the Mother-32 where it normally belongs.
Also, take Jim's advice here and try and find a better power solution. Just remember that you'll want power that exceeds the draw of the collected modules by about 1/4th-1/3rd of the total to avoid inrush issues at power up and to keep the P/S running cooler. It's the biggest source of heat in ANY modular build, and since heat can also equal instability for various circuits, cooler is what you want.
Being unfamiliar with modular synthesis and building a rig at the same time is generally not going to work out well. Instead of going further with this, I strongly suggest downloading a copy of VCV Rack. This is billed as a "Virtual Eurorack", which isn't wholly accurate inasmuch as some VCV modules really are quite computer-dependent. But the operating, programming, and build principles are 100% the same as Eurorack as long as you don't overtax your computer's resources. By working with this for a while, THEN coming back to a build attempt, you'll find that making sense of the plethora of modules on MG becomes WAY easier.
Wow, that's quite amazing to create such a sound track with a rather small rack, well done! :-)
What's your experience with the Sherman Filterbank, is it worth the investment? Does it has something you can't get done with a Eurorack filter module?
Thanks a lot for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield Modular.
For review reports of Eurorack modules, please refer to https://garfieldmodular.net/ for PDF formatted downloads
I’ve got the chromatic modules and what I’ll say is that they’re pretty decent except that I don’t much care for the Eudemonia filter. It doesn’t have much character in my opinion. In my setup now I’m much more enjoying the sounds of 2 hysterias through a ring mod and low pass gate. To my ears that setup sounds much better and more interesting than the same two VCOs into the Eudemonia with the Ataxia modulating the filter cutoff and vca. For the same price you could get a Typhon which sounds fabulous and does a lot more. In short, I would look into alternatives for the filter/vca.
For your second setup, plaits is a very robust module and it is going to give you a very different experience than a pretty basic analog vco. You can approximate that setup in vcv rack so I would try it there.
I recommend the Intellijel Quad VCA as it has lots of useful features like attenuators, CV control, boost control in small modular and works great. I also recommend logic modules and sequential switch and good clock source with clock divider/multiplier as these help with generative patches. You have Maths which is a great modulation source for functions and envelopes but a mixer/quad VCA would really help out your setup quite a bit.
@farkas
It is an excellent initiative to have described the concept that guides your music and video production.
Thank you already for that.
Moreover, I think this line is particularly coherent and brilliant.
Happy man. So many creations lack that support of reason that opens the doors to creative expression.
And the result here is (still) very, very good.
