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ARP was using 1v/8va scaling from square one, so I don't see pitch CVs being a problem here. The gate/triggers did like a heavier hit at somewhere around +10V, but again, I don't see that as being problematic. Plus, if Uli really followed the original docs, you're likely to have a trimpot that can lower that threshold, or you can add something like https://www.modulargrid.net/e/emw-voltage-source in there to impose a suitable offset voltage that'll work.

Eurorack: there's ALWAYS a fix in there, somewhere!

Glad to see that I’m not alone with problems buying from Control in NYC. I like the folks at Patchwerks and Detroit Modular. Knowledgeable, friendly and fast shipping. I’ve also had fast service from Perfect Circuit and Analogue Haven Shawn has a lot of hard to find modules and is helpful with my questions.

Well, lessee...do you need something more along the lines of a multitrack, or would a basic stereo pair off of the mixer via USB work? Or something sort of down the middle?

If I were facing this same problem, I would go with this as the mixer: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EPM12--soundcraft-epm12-mixer No, it doesn't have onboard FX...and you really don't want those, anyway, as they tend to be sort of "meh" when compared to outboard FX processors, and given how cheap THOSE are at present, you'd come out better populating several rack spaces with something like a Yamaha SPX90, etc. Those older FX from the 1980s have a certain "grit" to them that sounds pretty warm and satisfying.

Then for audio conversion, this: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M4--motu-m4-4x4-usb-c-audio-interface 4-in, 4-out interface, has a monitor loopback function for easier tracking against other DAW tracks, and so on. And yes, four DC-coupled outs in case you get a wild hair to do some DAW-to-CV/gate/trig fun.

Hi all,

I am considering selling my Make Noise Shared System on MG, but since the marketplace is coupled to single modules only, how do I offer this system for sale here? Selinng the individual modules is not an option, I'm afraid. Suggestions are welcome!

Kind regards,

ds
-- deathspell

All you can do is list it and state that you aren't interested in parting it out...I would also list it on the Facebook group "The Mostly-Modular Synthesizer Garage Sale"...I've always had good luck buying on that group...just always use PayPal 3% to protect the buyer and seller IMO.

I quit buying from Control in NYC after they took forever to ship items and screwed me on a bad cable that they lied and said would replace. Plus when I spoke to them they had major attitude, and were rude to me on the phone. Screw them!
-- sacguy71

I would have to agree with you that they have a rude attitude...I even sensed it in the email replies that they sent to me when I was inquiring about my order that they screwed up. They did refund my money and happened to be the only place where I could find a Rackbrute 3U for a decent price...they did give me free shipping on that but I won't order from them anymore.

Its such a complete opposite customer service feeling I get when I deal with Patchwerks...those guys go above and beyond to make sure i'm happy with whatever I order from them...they are my go to now

EDITED Nov 8th 2021, 03:15

Hi Farkas,

Yeah... that's what I am thinking or rather hoping as well. But knowing the 2600, not being the purest Eurorack thingy in the world, I know it was never designed for that because at that time Eurorack didn't exist yet, still I wonder if there would be "any surprises" from those 2500 modules to be expected...

For example if the 2500 has the same issue as the 2600 with opening the VCA or filter fully because it expects a signal up till 15 V instead of Eurorack till 10 V... then we might have an issue. So I wonder if A) the 2500 has this issue as well and B) if Beh... I mean the brand we not supposed to speak of ;-) was clever enough to update those 2500 modules to a 100% Eurorack standard... mwah... not so sure... hence my questioning :-)

Thank you very much and kind regards, Garfield.

Thanks Garfield

Well I did sample DPO and Wogglebug into Morphagene as an experiment and chopped it up then modulated it.
I like Tempi and it’s fun to tap tempo for each clocked channel. I’m still learning it tho. Hmm compared to Pam, hard to say. Pam does more and has menu screens to program clock stuff plus LFO and random modes. I like them both but if I had to pick one, I’d still go with Pam as my only clock module.

From my minimal research, they look to be fully Eurorack compatible. No odd conversion necessary.

Nobody? :-)

Lugia, do you know this perhaps?

Hi Sacguy71,

Great sound you got there at the beginning of the jam, are that samples or some real made electronic sounds? :-) I see you have the Make Noise - Tempi now as well, do you like it? If you compare it with the ALM - Pamela's New Workout (if I remember correctly you got that one too, right?), which one do you prefer now? Or is that too early to ask and do you need more time with the Tempi first?

Thanks a lot for sharing your Shared System with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

Oh that's great to know! Thank you very much for your kind support. Let's see what and how the future brings us together regarding that book idea :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Thanks Garfield,

Also since I am a published author for books, I'd be open to contributing in the future.

Fun jam based on my take of the classic Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon synth line from the song On the Run with some twists

EDITED Nov 8th 2021, 01:22

I quit buying from Control in NYC after they took forever to ship items and screwed me on a bad cable that they lied and said would replace. Plus when I spoke to them they had major attitude, and were rude to me on the phone. Screw them!

EDITED Nov 8th 2021, 00:58

I like Doepfer cases they do a good job on power needs.

Hi Sacguy71,

Thank you! :-) Interesting idea about writing a book, I keep that in mind for a possible (far) future idea/project. Let me create some more review reports first then I will chew on that idea :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

It's a great idea to use your brewery as an input "instrument" for your modular synth, great creative way of making music :-) I like that! Kind regards, Garfield.

Holy Batman, Garfield!

Such a magnus opus on modular reviews you have achieved with the reviews! I think you should publish a book on modular reviews and so forth. Your writing and research is quite excellent. Perhaps you could partner with Chris at LearningModular on this to share efforts? He did write the Patch & Tweak book on modular with Bjorn. I have the SEM filter as it came with my Doepfer A100 Basic system that got me started in Eurorack modular world two years ago. Love it. Makes me yearn for a Prophet 6 or OB6 keyboard hardware synth to make retro 80s new wave music.

Great discussion folks! I wanted a small portable mixer recorder that I can use with modular and other gear. So far having good results with the 1010 Bluebox. I do hope that they add new features like loop playback and the ability to rewind to points for each recording. Last night I recorded my Leipzig v2, DFAM and Make Noise Shared system. I’m thinking that it will let me use a lot of samples recorded from modular and less need to haul around tons of gear to live events in the future. Then I can bring a small modular for live performance and my Octatrack for drum and movie clip samples.

Intellijel Audio I/O > (patchbay >) DAW or Digitakt
works also in reverse
other hardware > Intellijel Audio I/O > modular mangling

-- happygolucky

A little simpler, less space, less expensive... 4ms Listen IO. (Tested and approved for 2 years and a half :))
Plus: Erica Synths Midi to Clock V2 (seems great), or Intellijel uMidi... There are so many solutions.

Thanks Garfield :)

Yeah, I put the Contact Mic on Pipes and Brewing vessels in the brewery and recorded the sounds while Pumps were running while brewing and cleaning.

Here's another bit but the Delay is used on the Resonester mode in Clouds, which makes some lovely piano-like keys with careful settings.

Yes, the Intellijel Audio I/O is a great audio interface module for audio input and audio output, however it's not meant for MIDI to CV or CV to MIDI.

I agree with Lugia and Sacguy71 that those MIDI modules from Doepfer (the A-190-x series) are pretty disappointing, the only modules so far from Doepfer that I don't like, all the other modules from Doepfer is great stuff, especially if you look at the price-performance ratio.

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Thanks a lot on the additional information you provide. I am going to experiment with those thoughts versus my Befaco - EvenVCO, good ideas!

Wow! The beginning of your new added jam here, wow, what a fantastic beginning and that sound, man, that sounds great, to die for!

Do I understand you correctly that your brewery provides the inputs of some sounds via the Contact Mic module into this jam? Sounds fantastic! That sound that you let kick in that sounds like a kind of wind or storm a bit after 08:00, yet another great goosebumps-moment ;-)

Beautiful jam this one, I wouldn't mind if you go more into the direction of this kind of experiments and kind regards, Garfield.

Good Sunday afternoon,

An update on the available review reports from my website (see below my signature for the link):

ACL: Multi II
ADDAC: 200b Buffered Multiples
Doepfer: A-106-5 SEM filter, A-110-1 VCO, A-124 Wasp filter, A-130-1 Linear VCA, A-131-1 Exp. VCA, A-140-1 ADSR, A-145-1 LFO and A-180-3 Dual Buffered Multiple
Erica Synths: Black 8 Mult, Pico Multi v1.2 and Pico Switch
Hikari Instruments: Quad Switch
Intellijel: Audio I/O
Make Noise: Multiple and STO
Waldorf: DVCA1
Xaoc Devices: Tallin and Warna II

Quick guide: Read chapter 2, that's all you need to know if you suffer from TL;DR symptoms ;-) Or read the entire report if you don't. For those who want more detailled information on the parameters and characteristics used in these review reports you can go to my website and at the top right click on "Other documents" then click on the latest Review_report_appendices_version link to download the Appendices, the Glossary and the Change Log that goes with the above mentioned review reports.

That's it for this year. I am going to take a small break from writing review reports for a few months and will continue next year, 2022, with adding hopefully another 10 more review reports. Kind regards, Garfield.

Intellijel Audio I/O > (patchbay >) DAW or Digitakt
works also in reverse
other hardware > Intellijel Audio I/O > modular mangling

Everything seems to be working fine with the boost adapter even though I'm still almost maxing out the -12V rail.
I guess the modules need the extra from the +12V rail during power up...
Thanks again and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that all continues to keep working!
Now I'd like some fuss free time to really dig in and hear what I can do with my first modular set-up.

And another... this time with some Contact Mic recordings from in the Brewery which are messed with in Clouds.

Hi all,

I am considering selling my Make Noise Shared System on MG, but since the marketplace is coupled to single modules only, how do I offer this system for sale here? Selinng the individual modules is not an option, I'm afraid. Suggestions are welcome!

Kind regards,

ds

I mixed the Saw, Square and Even outputs in Veils before going to the Happy Nerding HNVCF and its 18dB, modulation coming from the Envelope and a clocked LFO from the Noise Engineering Clep Diaz and I've now re-patched this to go through Monsoon Clouds instead of Mimeophon.

Thanks

Cool I need to use the recorder on my Disting EX. Had fun recording bunch of synths today on the Bluebox.

I wish this was real, instead it just sits here teasing me, along with all the other lightstrip prototypes!

Thanks Garfield,

Yeah I think it comes down to a hard limit inherent in the DPO module since it has only two 1v/oct connections so I could sequence two channels from Rene for two different VCO on the DPO for bass/melody. But I could see also if I can get a snare/high hat/ kick from Erbeverb and use Wogglebug noise as well to manage that. That would make me very happy and prove that the Shared System can hold its own as a stand alone beat making techno system against others like the Erica Synths Techno System and so forth.

always a good idea to check wigglehunt.com too (aggregator site)

Hello All,

Does one perhaps know if the 2500 modules from the brand of whom we shall not speak the name ;-) if those modules are 100% compatible with Eurorack standards or are there any surprises or other things to be aware off when using it together with one's Eurorack stuff?

Thank you very much in advance and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Sacguy71,

Ha, ha, great sound, that wacky bass jam :-) Nice to so you play around with your Shared System, you have some great moments there with the René module. That one has 3 channels, if I am not mistaken, so you could use that for two melody lines and your bass line for example. Then I see you have a Pressure Points module as well, that can be used as a small sequencer as well, for a few of your percussion sounds, for example.

I don't have a Shared System, so not too sure if more is possible however with Make Noise modules, creativity is almost endless! :-)

Thanks a lot for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Made a crazy bass jam tonite on the Make Noise Shared System using DPO with Rene clocked by Tempi and Erbeverb for effects.
I am trying to figure out how to patch a complete track with bass, melody and drums (kick, clap, hi hats, snare) using only this modular system.

Enjoy!

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Nice jam that you packed full with variations in sound, wow! Looks like you got some good experience with the EvenVCO, I still need to get to know this module better to get the best out of it. You don't seem to have any issues with that :-)

Some nice echo effects (Mimeophon?) you got there just starting before 09:00, great!

Great jam and demo, thanks a lot for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Thanks @troux that makes sense. BTW reminds me of some Heinbach vids I watched a little on YouTube. @broken-form if you haven't already watched Heinbach vids IMO there's a lot in his recent vids that would be helpfulfor interesting textures

For those interested now (2021) you should probably wait til the next batch is available...likely at the end of this year, according to the maker's website. Better than plunging for an exorbitantly priced used module.

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Hey @nickgreenberg, the ResEQ opens up a ton of textural space for drones, feedback, field recordings, etc. Take a simple field recording case, you've got some insects, you route it through the ResEQ and cut all the frequencies but let's say the top and the bottom (or whatever combo you want) and it still sounds like insects or whatnot, but in a new weird fashion that's connected but not identical to what your ears might expect. With drones it lets you emphasize the textures that might jump out as interesting or that you feel are interesting. Honestly it's a wonderful module.

No Problem - have fun!!! & hope all your builds work first time or are at least easy to troubleshoot

I think you can use the Beatstep Pro as a MIDI to CV converter. My Keystep and SQ-1 can do that.

@troux, I don’t get from looking at Serge ResEQ what’s good about it for creative uses. Would you mind giving some explanation / examples? Thanks! NG

I appreciate the guidance, Jim. I'll take all of this into consideration. Thank you.

Serge ResEQ

I use a Disting mk4 for this and it always works great, no multitrack but the convenience is worth it.

Agree. Well the Bluebox is fun so far and great little mixer and recorder for my Eurorack stuff. Should improve the process of using with my DAW.

Hi farkas

build a passive mult 1st - should be cheap and very easy

get a kit for the befaco module - not just panel and pcb - follow the order in the building instructions and you should be ok!

AISynthesis has a lot of beginner material - videos and kit lists - watch these

if you haven't bought a soldering iron yet - seriously consider the hakko fx888 - https://www.hakko.co.uk/product/fx-888d-digital-soldering-station-blue-yellow/ (it's the one I have)
it may be the only soldering iron you ever buy - and has a good variety of tips available in case you need to do smd in the future

other than that get:

solder with lead (pb) in it - it's easier to use as it flows at a lower temperature than lead free and isn't a problem for the small amount of solder that you will probably be doing - and won't cause problems as you won't be selling modules you build for a while at least - buy the thickness that AI recommends - buy a decent amount

desoldering braid - you will make mistakes and once you get the hang of it works really well - better than solder suckers imo

a basic multimeter

side cutters - for trimming leads

a magnifying glass on a stand (maybe a 3rd hand one)

hope this helps
Jim

EDITED Nov 6th 2021, 20:49

Okay, some other ideas, if you're open to digital
-- I'm hearing some really buck-wild stuff coming out of QuBit Organic Wavetable and NE Loquelic Iteritas Percido
-- the Xaoc "Leibniz Binary" system & modules are worth looking at

I've had some really interesting results in the DAW from some heavy digital smashing put through really lush delay / reverb. The digital harshness is beautifully tempered by a lush spatial effect.

SO if I wanted to put a bunch of $s towards an interesting texture setup I might do something like:
-- a wide ranging and barely controllable digital OSC like NE Loquelic Iteritas Percido
-- a granular module of choice
-- the Xaoc "Leibniz Binary" system
-- Panharmonium
... with some mixing thrown in where needed in the middle of that, plenty of CV modulation, and some lush FX on the end of it

I really don't focus on textures myself, so take this with a grain of salt. BUT you seemed hungry for more ideas, so here's a few more!

Cheers, NG