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I had the TEX MIX and the master section, it's a nice little slution, but TM is a very bleedy and noisy module. The big difference with the Feedback one is the sound, the built quality and the overdrive possibilities.
And the aux are pre fader...
Messy...wouldn't a "third hand" make more sense for soldering work?
-- Lugia
It can, but I've tried a lot of things and like this best.
I prefer using pads like this for any board less than, say, 128x128 mm. Two reasons;
- It's easier than setting up the PCB holder/3rd hand
- I have never found a PCB holder I like. Always something irritating about them, so I use these.
Lager boards, like a guitar amp board, I'll use a PCB holder, but smaller stuff (like eurorack boards) it's so much easier to just hold it on one of these.
and won't catch on fire if the soldering iron gets dropped on it.
-- Lugia
Neither will these. This material is rated to 565 dF, and as you could see at the end of this vid pressing my 675 dF tip against the material leaves no mark or damage. Really high temp rubber.
I've been looking at the Rangoon from Calsynth,
it's converted to sliders for most controls, same form factor as a Monsoon.
may help with tuning stability/ not nudging the tuning out of place
-- fretless19
Thanks for that - looks like an interesting option.
I have it and its nice for what it is. According to its blurb its setup in such a way that all “tweakable” parameters are on top
with bigger knobs etc have all others that will affect tune and harmonics more subdued.
I mainly use my uRings clone for either percussion or non-melodic cases where tuning etc doesnt matter much
Anyway just wanted to offer another module to have a look.. to be frank though I would prefer at this point a full sized one and will at some point try to procure one.
-- mamonu
Thanks for that. In the end, I went for the OG and couldn't be happier. That said, I'm still on the look out for a smaller rings clone for a portable skiff. Did you pick up the original? How's it working out for you? Cheers
Exact-a-mondo, Jim...you learned to use the leakage and other garbage and accept that as something critical to your overall "sound".
Sam Phillips of Sun Records fame always used to get ripped on by local Memphis DJs for having 60-hertz hum on his records. But if you're cutting tracks from the likes of Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, and of course Elvis, you don't change the overall sound because clearly, it works. Plus, the very first mixing work I did back in Nastyville was on a now-coveted Audiotronics 16/8/2 desk that cross-channel leaked like a mo'fo. People into the vintage thing, however, have made those original desks into something of a spendy "cult" item. With leakage.
Messy...wouldn't a "third hand" make more sense for soldering work? After all, they're cheap, don't involve chemicals, and won't catch on fire if the soldering iron gets dropped on it.
Working on it...but I have to admit, this case size is pretty inadequate for the task at hand. The width is one of those even-numbers that doesn't translate nicely into module spans due to the various conventions about how to deal with panel ergonomics. Plus, rebuilding this into something that hits that zone you're looking for looks like it'll be an ugly chore because the original build used a lot of small-width modules...and they're no fun to deal with when the patchcord snarl gets really huge. Also, that really blows the whole point of using lab gear, because we've (ie: those of us using that to "extend" the electronic palette) gone to that to get better control/ergonomics as well as arriving at wholly new sounds.
Moving to something like a Mantis would be better. Better still would be B.'s 2 x 140 hp cab, which is cheap and spacious. That would allow a better module complement, plus some interfacing for actual test gear if you opt to dive into that. Also, you really do want a "typical" voice in there so that, when that's needed, you'll have that to screw around with as well as other processors.
And it's not like consoles are always going to work perfectly anyway. Back in the early 1990s and before, channel leakage is something that you had to watch out for, and it wasn't "NO leakage" back then, but "manageable leakage". I recall reviewing a Studiomaster Diamond 163 back in 1997 that had some very obvious leakage on high-level signals, and that was the sole flaw...otherwise, it was a killer little live desk.
-- Lugia
and even when recording bands in high end studios - there was always leakage on the microphones...
it's not the end of the world - & that's just what's supposed to be on the tape - there are many famous songs where there's an aeroplane flying over or a car driving by... big deal...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
there's a bit but as you can use the vcas on the mono channels it only really affects the stereo channels - & at least for me it's only really present on the returns - so you could just turn the sends down before muting...
-- JimHowell1970
And it's not like consoles are always going to work perfectly anyway. Back in the early 1990s and before, channel leakage is something that you had to watch out for, and it wasn't "NO leakage" back then, but "manageable leakage". I recall reviewing a Studiomaster Diamond 163 back in 1997 that had some very obvious leakage on high-level signals, and that was the sole flaw...otherwise, it was a killer little live desk.
It needed a name and this is what came up in my head when Soundcloud asked me. I've had to build in a couple of breaks in my one-track-per-day project for various reasons in June. This is the last track before my most recent break. Let me know what you think!
Or you could add two signals to one L/R pair and have them use the same level control. So two 4 channel mono mixers with shared controls. Never thought of that.
@Jim with the ST Mix, Doepfer VC Mix, the Matrix mixer and the Planar that should be enough 🤣
STMix can function as two mono mixers if you dummy the R inputs of the left inputs you want to mix separately from the rights.
It will create two distinct outputs to L and R outs.
L1 X
_ R2
_ R3
L4 X
L1 and L4 go to Lout, R2 and R3 to Rout. You can add the Aux unattenuated to either.
It’s a bit of a workaround but my point is you get a lot of bang for your buck with this module in a very small space (6hp).
the only thing about the tex mix is that i heard there is some bleed through with the mutes
-- Broken-Form
there's a bit but as you can use the vcas on the mono channels it only really affects the stereo channels - & at least for me it's only really present on the returns - so you could just turn the sends down before muting...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
I use a high temperature silicone rubber soldering helper from Austin Ribbon Mics to support my soldering.
However, I’ve read some comments that people would like to use this, but A.R.M. does not ship to their country.
Well, how about making one? I bought some silicone rubber from Amazon and built my own.
Pretty simple, pretty messy, and in the end pretty useful.
If you can’t buy one, or if you just want to make a custom one for yourself, here’s the process.
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I've got a tex-mix & really like it - inexpensive, DIY able (panel furniture & headers only) and very good for the price - and the douts are a great idea - saves stackcables for other things!
-- JimHowell1970
the only thing about the tex mix is that i heard there is some bleed through with the mutes
I've got a tex-mix & really like it - inexpensive, DIY able (panel furniture & headers only) and very good for the price - and the douts are a great idea - saves stackcables for other things!
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
is it possible to limit people from re-listing the same module multiple times? there are 2 people abusing the system and re-listing black panel erbe-verb multiple times, almost every day.
A very good multiple from Synthrotek, the MST ’07 buffered multiple.
Pretty straightforward build, and pretty quick.
And the results are just what I wanted, a very accurate reproduction of the input wave. Even better, one input can be echoed out 14 outs, or a number of combinations of ins/outs, making it very useful
Recommended.
I've thrown the ST Mix back in. I've never did much CV mixing, maybe I should :D
The Raiju had to go, but that isn't even available yet, so not that painful.
I was looking for a Multi Delay for quite a long and it’s in my rack now. There’s a lot to learn with it like the Bark. Here it’s making all the organic noises with the Bark association and it’s animating the HO drone. So here’s my first test with it :
Befaco STMix is DC coupled. It will mix CV as well as mono and/or stereo audio. Mono input on left channel is copied to right. Best bang-for-the-buck in mixers at four stereo channels and a fifth aux-in.
You're right, kinda. I had a Befaco STMix in there, but I removed that, because there is nothing stereo in there. The Planar 2 also functions as a very hands on 4-channel mixer, so looking at the sound sources that should be enough (for me at least).
mixing is not just for audio!!!! get some dc coupled mixing in there for modulation!!!
The midixo is just a dummy, that'll be a 2HP DIYed panel with a TRS jack, as a breakout-module for the Spring Reverb Tank.
-- finnglink
makes a bit more sense...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
You're right, kinda. I had a Befaco STMix in there, but I removed that, because there is nothing stereo in there. The Planar 2 also functions as a very hands on 4-channel mixer, so looking at the sound sources that should be enough (for me at least).
The midixo is just a dummy, that'll be a 2HP DIYed panel with a TRS jack, as a breakout-module for the Spring Reverb Tank.
I've built this module and it's wonderfull.
Through hole componants easy to find.
Not calibrated yet but if makes marvelous noises.
The chaos section is a great idea.
Love it.
Im looking for some thoughts of y'all.
I went into modular the wrong way and am now sitting here with a ton of modules that are not fun or just don't make sense. So I'm slowly starting to conceptualize a new rack, with a few modules I already have and some others, that make more sense.
This isn't supposed to be a full synth voice + sequencer or a techno drum machine, more an interactive yet abstract effects and sound machine. I took some inspiration from Hainbachs Test-Equipment Modular and paired it with some of my own ideas.
I'll be doing a lot of pinging, feedbacking and processing of external signals (Synths, Voice, etc.). While I have some "lo-fi-ish" effects on board, I will be using outboard gear and software for effects, compression, eq and mastering.
I just want to hear what you think. Am I missing something essential? Would you give this rack a play?
*That TRS 2HP thingy on the right is supposed to be a breakout module for the spring reverb, so I can mount the tank on the outside. I'll diy that.
Oh, yeah...and there's loads of potential sidecar-type racks out there, so find one that fits. Plus, since that Alesis uses the typical mono-send/stereo-return setup you find in small mixers, you can snag a couple of FX processors in that format to go in there as well. In fact, one of those has been a fave of mine since the mid-1980s: the Yamaha SPX90. Not only is it versatile and stoopid-easy to program, it's the source for a LOT of electronic music FX over the years. The most famous example might be Brian Eno's "Thursday Afternoon" reverb, as the SPX90 can do that 70-second reverb time at the push of a button or three. Plus, outboard gear has gotten crazy-cheap due to everyone being all hot 'n' bothered about FX being "in the box", so take advantage of that if you're able.
I think I understand what do you mean so I'll try to look for alternatives...any suggestion is welcome!
-- DaviG
If you can find one used (and that's a BIG "if"), grab that over the clones. Most Mutable clones have their already-tiny controls jammed into a similarly-tiny space, so that would be a "nope" there.
Actually, check the Klavis Twin Waves mkii. Wavetable architecture similar to Plaits/Braids, but you get TWO oscillators...with quantizing to boot...in each module. And at 8 hp, you can drop TWO in where the Brains is currently. Four VCOs? Hellz yeah!
More expensive, but you get your value for the $$$ there.
+1 for the idea of a way of differentiating modules already owned within a rack from those under consideration for future. This would be terrific if it can be implemented.
Just an annoyance really when trying to share a screenshot to Facebook it posts an older version of my rack. Same applies when using the copy link function.
Using the Acidrain Chainsaw going two ways, and some samples from a Prok-turned Radio Music. I was meaning to change the chords with the QuantGemi from NoiseEngineering but completely forgot. Arpeggio from 2hp ARP, which was split to 3 octaves which I didn't end up playing.
Thanks for listening.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
hello community,
I've received a fantastic modular mixer from Feedback Modules, in the nae of MIX BX. It's an excellent mixer, so much that it has instantly joined my "Keepers" serie, in this episode 7th, we don't talk, and we see how "versatile" this amazing module can be.