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Very useful little module, especially for CV. Be warned that it bleeds quite a bit, so not ideal as an audio mixer.

some great comments from everyone , and some good changes in the right direction ..
in the latest case, id defo got for a pams pro and then you could loose the quantiser module ..save some space ..
in the 5 years ive been at it , id defo recommend starting with a 104 x 6U , and just building one good voice , i did something similar , and bought loads of oscilators and filters , you just end up sounding like a crap mono synth ..
the sound what people get from modular, which you dont get from all the other stuff , is kinda built , on modulating stuff in ways you dont quiet get offered using other instruemnts .. quirkey sequencers are defo a real way to make things sound modular ,
analog stuff that drifts and worbles aswell.. i found it quiet frustrating until i had a enough utility modules, to modulate the modules , that were modulating the modules that were modulating the modules..
VCV rack and an ES8 would be good to have alongside a really good voice , if you can handle working with computer ..
if you cant , its a pretty costly , buy, try , sell, or keep ,, and repeat ... excercise .. and just when you think youve got there , some one brings out a module that does things that you currently use 3 modules to do .. lol ..
enjoy the ride ..

hi
i just had a flick through your video ... i wanted to hear how noisey your bop and steve was ...
i guess its difficut to tell when its got sound coming in as the levels of noise itself kinda blurs into the fx natural sound ..
i can dial out the noise by setting tail to full and temperture to full , but that renders the thing pretty useless .as the tails removes the delays after so much , the delays are blurred , as with any delay i guess ..
ive had the best results in my intelligel cases , as i guess the power is cleaner maybe than some of my other sources ..
ive found the the module has a very hi noise output in comparison to all the other modules in my wmd performance mixer ..
its kinda bearable ..i have spoken to the guys and they did offer a solution , which was to switch a capaciter , something im ok to do.. i think ... im still waiting back further instruction ..
its such a lush sounding module .. would prefer it with a little less noise .
sounds like i can hear some hissing around 10.07 in your video ...

ryan

If something can be mounted in an Eurorack enclosure and runs with 12v it counts as Eurorack, more or less. Even more if it is unlisted. Meaning, users can upload stuff to use for their own racks.
But of course there is a huge gray zone. The database does not need to be clean but it should stay relevant and useful.
In that sense keep posting if something is totally off or spammy and we will take care.

ok, so i am sorry to report that @AnalogSpecies immediately stopped to response after he got payment for a module couple of days ago. the listing is still active.

EDITED Yesterday, 08:44

Vendo in blocco, contattatemi via mail se interessati nonibrekka1@gmail.com

Some more examples of "non-modules":

https://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-4u-x-62hp-palette-case-top-row-silver-0-5u
There are more similar entries for Intellijel case top rows, looks like 4 ones that I looked at combined are used in over 12000 racks.

Make Noise 0-coast, used in 4500 racks:
https://modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-0-coast-

Make Noise 1u cv bus, used in 4400 racks:
https://modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-cv-bus-case

Looks like quite a lot of people seem to like using "non-modules" in their racks. Personally, I don't see a problem with any of the examples I know of.

Thanks for listening, the ALT is an interesting synth for sure. Its more of a sound sculpting instrument as opposed to a synth instrument to play melodic stand alone compositions. But then again there in lays the challenge. Lets see how well i can integrate it into my modular noodling. 浪

this set up, i agree with whole heartedly

The Cyma Forma ALT looks and, more importantly, sounds pretty cool. 5-voice, pin matrix...seems like a great tool.

Can't wait to see what more you do with it! Thanks for sharing, as always!!

there are categories, so, its not really cluttering when you filter, I never see goofy stuff like that bc I only do eurorack.
-- RoastC

In the Eurorack module database, you will see the LiveTrak L6 when you filter for a "mixer" with the "other/unknown" checkbox checked.

On the one hand, it is a mixer and it can connect to the power supply of a Eurorack case with an adapter. On the other hand, all of the I/O is in XLR & 1/4" jacks, not 1/8" jacks.

It's really a case of "neither fish nor fowl" as the expression goes.
-- sibilant

Better delete all those blank panels then

Smart transaction with @JXOXO
Module as new with complete box.
Recommended Seller !

there are categories, so, its not really cluttering when you filter, I never see goofy stuff like that bc I only do eurorack.
-- RoastC

In the Eurorack module database, you will see the LiveTrak L6 when you filter for a "mixer" with the "other/unknown" checkbox checked.

On the one hand, it is a mixer and it can connect to the power supply of a Eurorack case with an adapter. On the other hand, all of the I/O is in XLR & 1/4" jacks, not 1/8" jacks.

It's really a case of "neither fish nor fowl" as the expression goes.

there are categories, so, its not really cluttering when you filter, I never see goofy stuff like that bc I only do eurorack.

People like to add things to MG that are in their physical racks. I don't see any problem with that at all. It helps them cope with their OCD. Does it disrupt yours?

-- AEROCATONE

My underlying motivation is to alert the admins to it, because I am concerned about the problem of clutter, so I try to spot duplicate entries, mark discontinued modules, etc.

The bottom line for me is, if the admins accept it as compliant, then I can manage by ignoring the entry and leaving the matter be.

Sometimes, and now more than before (?), when placing a module by clicking the + sign, the module gets placed behind other already placed modules.. Anyone else getting this?

-- skramsnes
Happens now and again. I found it only happens with modules that you have moved around in that particular session. If you refresh your page often when rearranging, it will save properly in that particular state and then there will be no room to hide for any modules you add.

A few things I'm noticing: you added the Behringer 112 oscillator pair, but there's nothing to process the raw oscillator output (filter, wavefolder, etc). Running raw vco into vca can sound great, but you'll eventually want some more shaping ability. That's the beauty of a module like Plaits/Brains in a small system like this is that it has a lot of sound shaping ability built in, plus the level in and built in decay envelope so it can operate almost completely on its own. This has been suggested already, but I think you should also start with a slightly larger case. I believe it still holds that the best value for money per hp and for quality of power supply is the TipTop Mantis. 6u, 104hp, plenty of power, and given the size of modules you're entertaining you'll eventually fill it. I also agree with Ferran_RMBL in their suggestion for starter modules: CHAOS, ABACUS, BRAINS, SKIES, and a cascading vca like the intellijel one or a Mutable Veils clone. Those modules are deep and you'll get a ton of variety out of them, particularly if your aim is more in the ambient droney side of things. Once you get a grasp of those modules, you'll have a better sense of what you want and what will help you get the sound you're going for. All that said, get a TipTop Mantis case and that subset of the modules, don't worry about completing the rack right off the bat. Get to know the workflow and see what directions you want to explore next. Peace friend!

There is a buchla 292e for sale that i enquired aboiut and the user sent when requesting a pic a screenshot of a youtube video.

I suspect this to be a scam listing as they immediatly asked for bank transfer.

https://modulargrid.net/u/offers/view/1261538
This is the listing.

This search result shows the exact same pic that was sent when requesting a pic of the module.
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e211aab3cf833b15&lns_surface=26&authuser=0&hl=en-DE&udm=48&si=AMgyJEsemUcRejRlV9YTOUWMAoPFqvIOlyD5CB_0xjECS34WScIYhhhWG_8oa19Xl0nRcVJrb7HjWIW1rQhF8Y6JaejHTNhwCW3fKZt_EZbjIDpFEXGVcNyOF1a2u9eIXiveXLezI0Lj48hIOPw4aVvgipHqAvdsLcGYDn3wFFK3sNw2yjKOGm-NrA08SBN3L7k4tCz5cJRs&vsint=CAIqDAoCCAcSAggiGAAgATojChYNAAAAPxUAAAA_HQAAgD8lAACAPzABEIYEGIIDJQAAgD8&vsrid=CIyFhau9_5qQlQEQAhgBIiRkYmY2MzI4OC0zYTU1LTQyYjctYmI4Mi1jZGUyNmU0MTJiNWIyBiICcmQoDTjihJ783pmQA1AA&lns_mode=un&source=lns.web.gsbubb&vsdim=518,386&gsessionid=sgZmbttT01VAlpDDGpHsUrpfiIHvLHBW8QvZZF4KyYupnYMdQ3pnwg&lsessionid=vtHQ-rkwD3sTAw4hYaY9pS4S9leOpUOmk0jEhli09aJ3mRvap-gn1Q&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjFm6H83pmQAxX_AtsEHWQ1FC0QpOwNegQIUBAA&biw=1710&bih=956&dpr=2

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hey guys.. i changed some modules and added also some..
can you maybe tell me if this a more logic case now?
your opinion would help me a lot

That set will certainly make nice dronish beeps for days.
More deep than wide, but it's gonna do that one kind of patch really well.
Box of fun. Build it!

EDITED Thursday October 09, 23:20

the oneiroi don't need modulations but to have its looper feeded (even an old fm radio is suffisant ,a vhikk will be far better:)

i dont think the vhikk is made for go along with rythmes or maybe with very strong or very particulars ones(the tabor seem strange enough ,to be seen)but he need effects(oneiroi)and modulations(pamela?)

in term of notes and modulations,to tame the vhikk for conventional rythmic sound designs without specific tools will be difficult and even useless ,for anything else it will be good

and why the pico dsp? the oneiroi already have good effects who are also an integral part of its design

Here is an example that I have noticed recently and strikes me as egregious:

ZOOM LiveTrak L6max

https://modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-zoom-livetrak-l6max

Even if someone manages to fit an object into a Eurorack case with brackets, it is a stretch to include this as a module entry.
-- sibilant

People like to add things to MG that are in their physical racks. I don't see any problem with that at all. It helps them cope with their OCD. Does it disrupt yours?

I recently heard that Crow will be discontinued soon. Does anyone know if this is true?

Thanks!

-Tim / Tango Delta

Just wanted to share a patch I created for a generative soundscape inspired by a dystopian cyberpunk future. It is noisy. Would appreciate any comments!

I've just found this thread today but wanted to say my two TipTop Buchla modules I received from @Atomist77 on 16th September were packaged excellently, posted swifty and in perfect condition. Top deal

oh boy I miss the old "Mutable Instruments" Days

Sometimes, and now more than before (?), when placing a module by clicking the + sign, the module gets placed behind other already placed modules.. Anyone else getting this?

JFYI I think @gstyle11 and @Knutt are the same person and their listings are scams. Similar story to everyone else here: bought something then radio silence.

I want to immediately try out 3-osc FM + filter on that

hi hi

Okay, great — I’ve put in the Atte instead of the Doepfer.
As for getting a bigger case, I’ll have to think about it — I don’t actually have that much space on my desk.
And since I downsized, I now have over 50HP of free space… I’ll have to see what I’ll do about that.

1. Then there are two more questions: how I’ve arranged the modules actually makes sense, or if a different arrangement would be better.
2. i have now 2 outs.. the A138s and a small second one cause i want also headphones out.. is this a good solution or should i change something there?

EDITED Tuesday October 07, 16:32

Hi,
Yes, but form my expierence, the best starter case size is 6U 104 Hp.
And i would change Doepfer attenuator for Attenuverters (polarizer) and offset. It's very usefull for modulating.

Hello ferran_RMBL

Thanks a lot for your perspective and opinion as well!
Would you then start with a case the same size as mine (84hp 6U), but with fewer modules?
I’ve changed the VCAs and taken out a few modules.
From your point of view, would that be a more sensible way to start — and then add more modules later?
It would also hurt less financially ;)

Another one https://modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-zoom-l-6-eurorack-mount

Hi,
A lot of modules for that case.
To run this, you'll need at least 88 more HP.
I'd start with BRAINS, CHAOS, ABACUS, and SKIES.
I'd choose smaller VCAs, for example https://modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-135-2-quad-vca-vc-mixer. It's inexpensive and is a Doepfer.
Regarding attenuators, instead of the Doepfer, I'd recommend, for example, https://modulargrid.net/e/befaco-atte. With it, you can invert the signals and it also gives you offset.
To output audio, a stereo mixer with send/return takes up a lot of space, at least 20 HP, so you'll either go for a larger case or opt for an external mixer.
Try this, and then you can add HALOS and Black Hole DSP2.
Ferran,

Hello farkas

What you’re writing makes absolute sense, and I feel the same way. Modular means growing with the modules, and the knowledge about them grows as well with them. For me, the main concern at the moment is simply not making a big mistake at the beginning—like forgetting something very important or combining modules that make absolutely no sense together.

I’m also not looking for advice on the “best module,” the “best brand,” or the “best workflow”… as you said, that’s very personal and will develop over time. What’s important to me is just not buying something I absolutely shouldn’t have, because it would be musically illogical or wouldn’t work at all.

The truth is, what you're going to have to do is just take the plunge and get some experience. There are all sorts of variables that are highly individual but won't make sense until you have some modules in front of you. This individualization is one of the beauties and joys of modular, but also makes it difficult to give advice. Everyone has their favorite manufacturers and modules, but that doesn't mean you'll like the same ones.
Do you like one-knob-per-function modules or are you okay with menus and button combinations? Do you want lots of panel space to tweak knobs, or are you okay with having tiny knobs and jacks all bunched up together, making it hard to get your fingers in there? And so on...
My advice is always to do your research and go slowly, only buy modules that solve problems that you cannot solve with modules you already have, don't be afraid to sell off modules that don't work for you, invest in a bigger case than you think you need, and have fun. You probably will spend more than your current budget in the long run.

Hey guys

many thanks to everyone who is helping me out here. For people who are very knowledgeable, it might seem boring, or they might not understand how someone could not know certain things. But for people like me, who are starting almost from scratch, the help is incredibly valuable and really motivating. :)

I’ve made some changes here again… does this make a bit more sense now?

The A-118-2v will save you 4hp over using the A-119, but wiggler's right, the Chaos will give you much of the same randomitry.
Get a couple Rides in the Storm QAM active multiples instead and share those CVs.
Stereo vs. mono. You'll either have to mix in stereo, run long wires, combine two channels, or throw one side away.
What's your usual clock going to be? Several modules here give or require a clock.
Can you distribute the clock(s) to where it's needed?
Are you hoping to use stacked cables? Don't do that.

Adding the VCA and audio mixer makes it better but not good. You have a handful of voices you want to be able to mix, plus a mighty dsp fx box that calls for a mixer with at least one fx send bus. Also, there is no basic plumbing such as attenuators and cv mixing. Loose at least one of the big modules to fit that in. Chaos and A-118 looks redundant to me.

Hi farkas
thanks a lot for your help! That already helped me a lot, and I understand the logic behind it now.
I’ve added a VCA module and made some other changes as well.
Maybe you or someone else has an opinion on that?

This video offers some food for thought. There's a running gag amongst modular users that you can never have too many VCAs, and that's something that beginners don't usually understand at first. You don't have any VCAs here, and I don't see any mixing solutions either. That's where I would recommend looking.
Have fun and good luck!

Hello everyone,
I’m completely new to Eurorack and wanted to give it a try. I don’t want to invest too much money, and many of you are probably thinking that I should go for more or better modules… but I really want to keep it cheap while still not having to give up too much. I definitely don’t want to spend more than €2000… preferably around €1500.

I mainly need the rack for ambient and dark ambient and will be combining it with a Yamaha Reface CP, which is connected to a Neonegg Planetarium V3.

I’m curious—can this rack setup work as it is, or am I doing a lot wrong here?

I’d like to thank you in advance for constructive help… as a beginner, any real guidance is really appreciated.
Thank you very much.

I would like to see an option to get a public link for a private rack, along with a menu showing currently active links and the ability to revoke access for each link. Possibly with a few options to generate links set to expire in 1 day, 3 days, 7 days, 30 days or simply a custom timeframe. Similar to how Discord invites work.

Currently, I either share my rack with the rest of the world, or with nobody but myself. I do want to others to see my rack, but only those that I want to show it to. When I sell or trade a module with someone, they generally get to see my address in one way or another. This is fine, but I do not like the idea of someone I don't know being able to see what kind of equipment I own, unless I specifically choose so.

I know screenshots are a thing, but those are quite limited compared to the full MG experience.

I really like the Flame C3 MkII knob recorder. Just 3 recordable loopable cv knobs, 1 channel allows recording an external cv.

Wow! Love the look, love the description, love the possibilities.
I would definitely love to have this in my rack!

i've be been ripped off by https://modulargrid.net/e/users/view/93695 Imox12, aka Imox13; i bought a pedal from him, since then, almost 2 weeks, never heard again from him, even after several emails, urging to contact me; watch out, he is still offering 2 pedals on MG !

The Erica Synths Black Wavetable oscillator is absolutely fantastic when just starting out. it's incredibly powerful and versatile while being super simple and easy to use. you’ll be making amazing sounds day 1

Excellent! Thank you for sharing!
-- Jukeshoe

Just saw your reply. Thank you so much for your feedback! I'm glad you liked the music.
By the way, tomorrow is Bandcamp Friday, and be free to support our music, if you like of course :)

All the best,
Igor

EDITED Oct 2nd, 19:13

There is no such thing as a "best wavetable oscillator". All have different quirks, different sound palettes, the UI facilitates certain modulations, etc...

With this being said, IME Piston Honda is hands down the best wavetable oscillator.

EDITED Oct 2nd, 18:36