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Hi ThiccMomSwag,

I visited last week the Superbooth and there I heard someone "fiddling" with a set of SoundForce modules, oh my goodness, what a serious good sound came out of those modules! Beside the modules themselves delivering a good sound another reason why it sounded so good was the fact that they had each four of it: four DCOs, four filters and four VCAs but a hell of a good sound!

I don't have any SoundForce modules myself yet but after this demo I am seriously thinking about it. Kind regards, Garfield.

just to add to what @GarfieldModular wrote - the befaco Out3 is also available as DIY both as a kit and as PCB/Panel

also note that what I mentioned are actual audio interfaces (or expanders for audio interfaces) - they plug directly into your computer (or expand an audio interface via ADAT)... the modules that @GarfieldModular mentioned are all audio output modules - they connect to an audio interface which then connects to your computer... might save you a bit of time researching!

EDITED Sep 22nd 2021, 23:54

Hi Broken-Form,

The ES-9 from Expert Sleepers is still on my wish list however I also can't comment on it since I don't have it.

If you want to start easy and small then the Befaco Out v3 is nice for starters. You can use it either as input or as output but not simultaneous, the price is reasonable though.

If your budget is a slightly bit better then go for the Intellijel Audio I/O module, it has two inputs and two outputs, it has a great LED meter (as a bonus) and this is my favourite Audio Interface module for jack connections. You also can check out my review report about it on my website (read only chapter 2 (Summarise) if you don't have much time):

https://garfieldmodular.net/index.php/intellijel/intellijel-audio-i-o/

It almost can do everything you need and it's reasonably priced. Only if you wish to have a phones output then this module is not what you need. The Befaco Out v3 has a headphones output though.

If you prefer to have XLR connections then consider the Vermona - Tai4, a great and good module, semi-affordable and good sound quality. If you need more functionality then go for the more expensive ACL - Audio Interface module that one is XLR as well and has headphones output too and has a good sound quality as well. Most expensive of the four here though.

I can all four recommend them, depending on your requirements. For something simple the Befaco Out v3 is sufficient otherwise for jack connections go for the Intellijel Audio I/O module. If it must be XLR then Vermona - Tai4 is good enough unless you really need XLR + phones then take the ACL one.

Good luck with the choice of audio interface module and kind regards, Garfield.

Edit: Removed typo.

EDITED Sep 22nd 2021, 23:46

Oh good call! Shoudn't look on MG after being outside all day. x3 Edited to fix. I like the idea of double Grids for drums, and I wonder if someone's made a DIY double Grids.

Hi Chinpira,

Yes indeed, the Befaco - Litch looks from a functionality point of view a bit like the Polygogo or at least they certainly have some similarities. Obviously the screen is missing with the Litch. The Litch, at least in that demo you provided here, it is MIDI driven, which is not my preference, I rather have direct controls. On the other hand the Litch can produce some real crazy sounds too! :-) I guess for someone who doesn't mind to use MIDI, the Litch is indeed an alternative to consider.

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Farkas,

Yeah crazy module it is ;-) It had been announced early 2019 and since early 2020 it's available, at least here in Germany, I got mine from Schneidersladen. Here is a link from a demo, introduction & explanation of the Polygogo by the creator of this module from E-RM in Schneidersladen on YouTube in English:

Now I need to somehow nicely ingrate it within an interesting patch ;-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Edit: Removed typo.

EDITED Sep 22nd 2021, 23:28

Hi Bleepadelic,

He, he, a "Mumble Drone", nice name! Indeed it's a lovely little mumble drone you created there. Perhaps next time an extended version of that? ;-) Thanks a lot for sharing and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Tunç,

He, he, great high energy small track, must have been lots of fun for you to play that jam! It was very enjoyable watching you at work in this video too! :-)

Thank you very much for sharing this with us and kind regards, Garfield.

Self driving modular

Many thanks to @Hellikova! Great seller. I bought the Pittsburgh Binary Filter, shipped next day, received in 3 business days. Well packed, and in good conditions, including the original box.

Hi Igor,

Great, thanks for letting us know. I will keep an eye on juno.co.uk currently not on stock. Kind regards, Garfield.

Thx for this multiple info. I thought that the buffered multiple can both, cv and audio. Ok 👌🏼
Eurorack is really fun, my learning curve is always up, slowly but up. in a few years I'll give you the tips;)
And I’ll follow the white rabbit to YouTube

-- Shapemodulator

you can use a buffered multiple for any type of multing - but it's 90%+ of the time unnecessary for anything but v/oct - ie from a sequencer to a vco

this is because you can get slight voltage drops when using passive multiples - which are irrelevant for anything other than v/oct (if you actually want to stay in tune)

I have a quite a few buffered (which I only use for v/oct) and passive multiples in my rack, but tend to use stackcables for passive multing

Thx for this multiple info. I thought that the buffered multiple can both, cv and audio. Ok 👌🏼
Eurorack is really fun, my learning curve is always up, slowly but up. in a few years I'll give you the tips;)
And I’ll follow the white rabbit to YouTube

you asked specifically can I use this as a multiple... basic reading skills and the ability to click on a link provide the answer!

if you'd asked:

does this

< Buffered multiple outputs
< Threads into three buffered outputs;
< source - the product description

mean I can use it as a multiple?

it would at least look like you'd done some research and don't just want to be spoon fed the answer!!!

so the answer is yes - you can, but if you want it for triggers, gates, cv and audio (and not v/oct) then it may be overkill - you just need a passive mult for those - buffered is only needed for v/oct (and in some cases where an output is expecting a buffered input - some make noise modules)

TBH - if what you want is a multiple - just buy a multiple - this appears to be massive overkill just for a mult!!!
or build one - really easy, if you can solder - if you can't it's really easy to learn - and a passive mult is a good place to start - and it's a very handy skill to have in modular synthesis - there are plenty of instruction videos on youtube - AISynthesis is great for beginner kits - like mults

-- JimHowell1970

EDITED Sep 22nd 2021, 21:13

expert sleepers es8, es9, depending on the type of usb your computer supports

the es8 at least is expandable, not so sure about the es9

es8 is similar sound quality to most usb interfaces - works fine for me

can't comment on the es9 as I don't have one

if you have an ADAT equipped audio interface already - you may also want to take a look at the es3 (and expanders) or the Boredbrain Music Optx (which is new out)

I don’t see Rings here but think he uses the double Grids for drum sequencing.

Love the look of this. ♥️ I really like Mylar's idea of double Grids. Do you find yourself using both? How're the Soundforce modules treating you?

EDITED Sep 22nd 2021, 23:39

you leave the studio????

-- JimHowell1970

Hi Broken-Form,

How about using an Audio Interface module to "solve" the problem or at least to make your audio output life easier?

I am using a PreSonus StudioLive Series III mixer and I have no issues, great sound.

Let's hope this is not the case but check it: In case you provided a far too "hot" signal to your mixer, worst case your input channels might have been burned up into smoke, try another input channel (not used for Eurorack before yet) and make sure you start with a very low output signal (start with zero) and then increase it slowly to something reasonable. Please do keep in mind that Eurorack signal -10 V to +10 V is too hot for audio/external mixers (max about -2 V to +2 V). One would expect that input channels have some kind of overload protection but don't count too much on it either.

Please let us know once you get something out of your external mixer.

Hence my advice to go for an audio interface module, less worries about DC components in your signal too! :-) Kind regards, Garfield.
-- GarfieldModular

what audio interface module can you recommend?

Yeah that is the selling point to me on the 1010 Bitbox that it can record and export as Ableton files for reuse easier in DAW.
Looks like multiple samplers would benefit me. Just like having lots of modulation sources and support modules.

I own the 1010 Music BitBox. I dig it for sampling modular... since it is modular. It's pretty simple to use and can record pre-specified lengths (when properly clocked).

The BitBox is also compatible with Ableton Live. You can load a 4x4 grid of samples into Ableton as a drum rack. This is nice for processing samples afterwards.

The language is also edible in a text editor, so swapping out samples or building new kits off-line is pretty easy.

It should only light up when there is a signal going into it. If it doesn't light up then, then there is a problem.
-- snowtires

will test tommorow

use channels 1 & 2 of veils for L
use channels 3 & 4 of veils for R

plugging a cable into veils breaks the normalization between the channel you're coming out of and the next channel

also - 'maths illustrated supplement' google and download if you haven't already!

sounds reasonable - hmm... I could use the tm to get a 'random bassline' into my sinfonion chnnel 1 (can be set to root and 5th only, very easily) - and dump the tune though... but I have other things for that, too... we shall see!

you asked specifically can I use this as a multiple... basic reading skills and the ability to click on a link provide the answer!

if you'd asked:

does this

< Buffered multiple outputs
< Threads into three buffered outputs;
< source - the product description

mean I can use it as a multiple?

it would at least look like you'd done some research and don't just want to be spoon fed the answer!!!

so the answer is yes - you can, but if you want it for triggers, gates, cv and audio (and not v/oct) then it may be overkill - you just need a passive mult for those - buffered is only needed for v/oct (and in some cases where an output is expecting a buffered input - some make noise modules)

TBH - if what you want is a multiple - just buy a multiple - this appears to be massive overkill just for a mult!!!
or build one - really easy, if you can solder - if you can't it's really easy to learn - and a passive mult is a good place to start - and it's a very handy skill to have in modular synthesis - there are plenty of instruction videos on youtube - AISynthesis is great for beginner kits - like mults

EDITED Sep 22nd 2021, 17:39

I get the distinct impression that I use Marbles and the 2hp TM for distinctly different things, I find the TM+Tune better for simple bass lines with a beat whereas Marbles doesn't seem quite as usable like that.... Marbles is probably great and I just need to twiddle the knobs to different settings.

Bro, we sequenced your sequencer with another sequencer.

-- Ronin1973

that's the spirit!!!

click the link and read the description!!!!!!
-- JimHowell1970

if you are familiar with the Eurorack then it is easy to speak. as a beginner like i am you don't understand everything

Bro, we sequenced your sequencer with another sequencer.

The amount of informations and knowledge that I can gain here are amazing, thanks guys. Although, I must say, I still have some really basic questions. Like for example - How can I utilize Rings, Plaits in Stereo mode, and both at the same time? Right now, one of them can go through Black Hole DSP and it's in stereo. But when I put them all through Veils, then I lose the stereo. I'm beginning to lose my mind or it has been a very busy day :)

Veils is a VCA. What effects do you feel the need to run through a VCA? Typically, you add effects just before the signal goes out to the mixer. But if you do have a signal that you want to keep stereo, then just use two channels of Veils. Split the envelope signal running to the CV input of two channels of Veils.

Studying Maths a lot, it's so much fun. But still - I feel so lost. OMG.

Watch this video from Loopop. Maths is just a great convergence of a lot of simple tools where the sum is greater than the parts.

Maybe add more sequencers? ;)
-- dadbodice

yeah maybe add another case for some more sequencing - you definitely need a sinfonion (or 2 or 3) in there for chords and to keep everything in tune!!!

click the link and read the description!!!!!!

It should only light up when there is a signal going into it. If it doesn't light up then, then there is a problem.

i bought a mutable instruments veils some time ago,havent had time to try to use it untill yesterday.

but it doesent light up(no light in it)is it broken?

Can I use the Ardabil as a multiple?

Befaco Lich has a patch called Polygonal VCO that is supposedly inspired by the Polygogo. I'm not sure if the two can be compared but I would like to know. :)

There is a demo here:

Maybe add more sequencers? ;)

Hi all!
Just want to let you know that my debut album "Still Life" is out yesterday.
You can now listen full record and get your copy here:
Digital - https://yalivec.bandcamp.com
Vinyl - https://polarseasrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/still-life

-- GarfieldModular

I just noticed you have both Marbles and 2hp tm & tune

so do I...

I'm on the fence for selling the 2hp modules

I'll probably either build a small case and stick them in it for a bedroom/couch case - or I'm going to sell them

@aleszylder,

Does this mean you will remove the thumb down you gave regarding this user?
And will you remove the names you mentioned in your post as ‘possible frauds’?

Talking of Doubling up the SINE inputs to Timbre Seriously Top Tips there, I've been using the output of 2x resonant filters as my sound sources and I'm getting some Mad interesting sound sculptures out of Timbre into Clouds :) Then riding the filter cut-offs for the sine tone gets crazy AF!
Much happy noodling with dark ambient madness!

Hey, there's a troublesome seller - @tommiedj
I transferred him money for Intellijel Steppy on Sep. 16, and he stopped answering my messages.
He has several modules on sale, all recent (which now I see suspicious). It looks legit because of the good votes from other users, some of them registered as users long time ago, but now I see they have crossed positive votes between them. https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/view/173328 Also suspicious is that several have recently added modules on sale.

Unfortunately I cannot vote the other users since I have not contacted them, but I suppose they are all frauds: @Kaneda87 @wrongdisplay @asdfqwer @dosko64 @DirkB @wolvero @tokkeherfst @pikseliahky (and a lot more since these users have their own positive votes)

The paypal account I sent the money to is ***@gmail.com
Tried to contact him, no success.

Be careful with this guy. It seems I got ripped off :/

Edit: yesterday I got my money returned from him and an apology.

-- aleszylder

Edit: yesterday I got my money returned from him and an apology.

EDITED Sep 27th 2022, 15:18

That sounds really wild. I'm not sure how I have never stumbled across the Polygogo before. I'm going to look into it a bit deeper.
Thanks for sharing your demo!

Hi All,

Here a small demo of the Polygogo module from E-RM.

Nothing fancy really, just a little demo to discover a bit the weird sounds from Polygogo :-)

Modulation done by Vermona - fourMulator (quad LFO), "filtered" by Instruo - Tràigh and internal Eurorack effect by ACL - VC Dual Delay (just a bit) and added a little touch of external reverb and delay to it as well. That's practically it. Thank you very much for listening and kind regards, Garfield.

Edit: Forgotten to mention the filter that had been mildly used.

EDITED Sep 22nd 2021, 00:49

hello, thank you all for the kind replies!
I'm thinking about adding a complex oscillator like the void modular one. I also stumbled upon the joranalogue generate 3 and the 4ms ensemble oscillator. what do you think about those two?

I tried to build a rack around the 4ms ensemble oscillator:
I've never had a bigger system like the one I posted above. therefore, I'm not sure if the one I build has everything I will need.

again, thanks for your help!

Hi Charles,

You are welcome!

I only have seen the Eurorack version of this Portal Drum module, no stand-alone version or something like that, at least not seen at the Superbooth. Yes, take it easy with an expensive decision like this. Once the module gets released and you have an opportunity to test it locally at your local dealer then try to do that first before you decide.

Sounds like they indeed still have this chip shortage issue, that I managed about, since the release is still in the distant future.

Please let us know if you decide to buy it or better make a demo jam out of it if you got that module. I am curious how you will use it :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

you leave the studio????

-- JimHowell1970

Hi Broken-Form,

How about using an Audio Interface module to "solve" the problem or at least to make your audio output life easier?

I am using a PreSonus StudioLive Series III mixer and I have no issues, great sound.

Let's hope this is not the case but check it: In case you provided a far too "hot" signal to your mixer, worst case your input channels might have been burned up into smoke, try another input channel (not used for Eurorack before yet) and make sure you start with a very low output signal (start with zero) and then increase it slowly to something reasonable. Please do keep in mind that Eurorack signal -10 V to +10 V is too hot for audio/external mixers (max about -2 V to +2 V). One would expect that input channels have some kind of overload protection but don't count too much on it either.

Please let us know once you get something out of your external mixer.

Hence my advice to go for an audio interface module, less worries about DC components in your signal too! :-) Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Garfield,

Thank you so much for the informative and detailed report. And a second big thanks for taking the time to look at the module. I had seen videos of Rabid Elephant showing a prototype at Superbooth 2019 and it seemed like this was going to be something of interest for me, especially because at that time they were talking about releasing it as a stand-alone as well as a eurorack module. Seems like they scrapped the stand-alone (too bad because that is what I would have preferred) and are just going with the module.

I received an email from Rabid Elephant yesterday stating that preorders are open but it seems like the release is still in the distant future. Not sure if I will jump on it but time will tell.

I have their Natural Gate module and I think it is fantastic. It can really deliver a cool vibe.

All the best,
Charles

The amount of informations and knowledge that I can gain here are amazing, thanks guys. Although, I must say, I still have some really basic questions. Like for example - How can I utilize Rings, Plaits in Stereo mode, and both at the same time? Right now, one of them can go through Black Hole DSP and it's in stereo. But when I put them all through Veils, then I lose the stereo. I'm beginning to lose my mind or it has been a very busy day :)

I'm using my modules mostly as an addition to my DAW and game, film related scores. And I can see that I made some big mistakes here. Like.... Why the hell did I buy Erica's Black Mixer. If I got Veils, why do I even need it? Should I just sell it and buy a mixer with which I could patch my reverb as a send and then I could patch my stereo modules too? Also, as Lugia suggested - Expert Sleepers must be a much better solution, than 4ms I/O.

Back to what I have now (also, I think I'm gonna sell Rackbrute and move to Mantis) -

Please help on what should I put there next. I managed to find Kinks (although not sure what I can with it yet)! I'll buy Links too.
Studying Maths a lot, it's so much fun. But still - I feel so lost. OMG.

Sweelinck - thanks so much. That Stochastic Inspiration Generator sounds great. Adding to my future buy list ;)