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I'll add that, once you start playing around with the above modules, you'll quickly see how important it is to have something like the 3x MIA...unless you plan on slamming every signal thru at full strength, attenuation is key.

I also question the need for a scope. Exact same reasoning as Wishbone provided. I had a small scope and it just didn't add much value for the space/money. Ears are better. But full-sized euro scopes are too rich for my blood.

Other than that, it looks pretty good, and with a Mantis case you'll have some room to maneuver.

After jamming with that setup a bit, you'll quickly see what you're missing...(which will be different for each person, that's the joy of modular!)

Your initial set of modules is enough to get you off to a good start. Best luck and fun! :)

EDITED Today, 14:19

Removing the BBD and the Sequencer, as you suggest, frees up 20 HP.

A few common ideas for 20 HP modules include, Maths, Doepfer Matrix Mixer A-138m, something spicy like Morphagene, Sealegs, etc. Not sure this would be best use of that space, but it's something to not overlook.

Breaking that 20 HP down into several modules will probably get you more mileage, but that'll be your decision....smaller module ideas that might add something include Pico DSP (erica), some sort of Euclidean Rhythm generator (2hp makes an okay one), noise and/or random voltage sources, and the various Doepfer switches/utilities.

You don't necessarily need to fill all 20 HP right away.....you could pick up, e.g., an Euclidean rhythm generator, the pico dsp, and see what you feel is missing after patching for a bit, or until it becomes obvious.

Hope this helps stimulate some ideas! Good luck!

thank you for the your insight, Jim! i do have reverb and delay pedals and to save rack space i'm planning to keep effects as pedals, unless i can squeeze one in later on.

make sure you get some pedal interface modules then - modular is very high volume compared to effects pedals

i was planning on using the keystep pro to sequence.
a second vco would be way down the line. first want to start with a manis and build around that and the mother32, grab a pams and maths or maybe make noise function to save space, and fill up the rack space ive got left with filters, vcas and utilities.
-- madTraffick

I'd definitely go for the maths over the function... much more than just an extra function generator - the utilities in the middle make it 4-5 * the usefulness - and that's without learning to patch program it...

seriously the mantis is the way to go for a case - not the 3u rackbrute... you wouldn't believe the number of people who I've told this to - only for them to just buy a smaller case and then 2-3 months later they message me to say - yeah you were right, I just bought a mantis!!!

-- JimHowell1970

Yup, listen to Jim re: Mantis as a starter case, I'm one of those that didn't listen! :D

I randomly came across this module: hilarious!

Has anyone tried one live yet, as a piece of self-destructive performance art (ala Banksy's self-destructing painting a few years back...)?

...end-of-show, show-stopper, melt everything down live~!

(Maybe it'd have to be end-of-tour vs. merely end-of-show...to keep costs reasonable. )

Actually, I'd be satisfied if anyone has tried it, even if in a small skiff. Anyone got links to a vid?
-- Jukeshoe

Hey there, our friends / scientific rivals at Molasses Industries make an informative, nuanced, and prudent review + test of the CF back when we first released it. Not sure if you can embed IG posts here so here's a link to their review.

-- Wildfire_Laboratories

Thanks for the link. I just stumbled across the same thing via modwiggler, but I appreciate it! :)

Awesome concept...I see from the modwiggler thread I wasn't the only one to draw Banksy parallels.

Well done, conceptual masterpiece! :)

I randomly came across this module: hilarious!

Has anyone tried one live yet, as a piece of self-destructive performance art (ala Banksy's self-destructing painting a few years back...)?

...end-of-show, show-stopper, melt everything down live~!

(Maybe it'd have to be end-of-tour vs. merely end-of-show...to keep costs reasonable. )

Actually, I'd be satisfied if anyone has tried it, even if in a small skiff. Anyone got links to a vid?

Link to rack

Looks pretty balanced overall from a functionality standpoint, but it does seem like there are a ton of mults for a rack of this size. If you use them, more power to you, it's just the one thing that stuck out to me.

As (I'm guessing) other users will chime in to say, you might stand to add a couple of utilities in place of two of the mults (if they're not crucial to your sound). Something like a quad switch or precision adder might be worth looking into.

Best of luck and hopefully the more seasoned users will chip in with more informed suggestions!

EDITED Jan 9th 2024, 22:21

Sounds good!

Paradiso, eh? That's a niice venue! :)

Break a leg!

I've been playing around with various kick setups since this thread.

One thing I've found that works well is multing the envelope that opens the vca for the kick, sending it to, say, Maths ch. 2, attenuverting it ( 9 oclock dial position), taking the INV out to the vca for the basslines, to get a nice "ducking" effect.

Kick remains crisp in the mix, as competing bass frequencies are rolled off.

OP could achieve same with A-140 (I believe) as it has an inverse output, correct?

Lovely video with good chunks of info! Thank you for sharing! :)

Not sure if this fits the bill, but ALM's MFX is 6hp and the compressor mode offers normal as well as sidechain options.

Hi :)
I am contemplating using a basic VCO to design my own kicks.
I am making mainly techno/dub techno/electro.
I am using a Michigan Synth SY0.5 and/or a MI Plaits to design my kicks and other hats/claps/percs.
Yet I am looking into more options for designing my kicks mainly. I am happy with Plaits and SY0.5 (or sometimes samples) for various other perc elements (hats/claps/perc).
I understand that using a basic VCO with various waveforms would also require a mixer (to eventually mix the various waveshapes), some EG (preferably ASR or ADSR) and some VCAs.
- I have a PipSlope Mk2, a Doepfer A-140 (ADSR with a Retrig input which can be interesting for adding some variation as well as an inverted out) and a XAOC Zadar for EGs.
- I also have a basic VCA (Doepfer A130-2)
I would need:
1) A basic mixer: would a Doepfer A-138n (basic 4 inputs) be good enough or a mixer/polarizer (more sound design options) like a Doepfer A-138j would be better?
2) A basic VCO: what should I look into? Bear in mind that this VCO would be used mainly for this purpose. Now I could also use it for other purposes :)
NOTE:
1) I am limited by space (as ever...).
2) I do processing outside my eurorack, therefore compression and saturation are not considered.
Any advice would be gladly appreciated.
Best,
L

-- Loersatz

I'm in almost the same boat as you at the moment...trying to decide which way to go with drums (and especially bass/kick). I also am interested in rolling my own kicks, but use Plaits as well. Unfortunately, no advice to give, but I will certainly keep an eye on this thread to see what wisdom others are able to provide, and which direction you choose after consideration. Best of luck! :)

Hey @Jukeshoe,
Would you mind sharing what type of (basic?) oscillator to choose to design a kick?
I posted something here: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/index/12677
Not sure this is the right place :)
Thank you,
L
-- Loersatz

Happily!

I use a Dixie II+.

That said, while I will often patch my kick from scratch (also use Plaits), one of the things I find most lacking in my current small setup (other than ASDR) is a quick and easy bass drum that doesn't burn maths and 3-4 channels of vca and/or Plaits.

If your setup can support it, though, might be worth it.

So, while capable of getting a good kick sound, maybe not the most elegant solution?

EDITED Dec 14th 2023, 17:39

Hi :)
I am using various solutions to design my kicks:
1) Michigan Synth SY0.5
2) MI Plaits
3) Sometimes using samples but I am not convinced anymore :)
Nevertheless, I am still pursuing the best solution to design my kicks as ready made ones (macro oscillators or other dedicated kick modules) do not offer as much sound design possibilities.
I have been gathering info from YT and I come to the conclusion that I am more enclined to use a basic VCO with various waveforms, an EG (ADSR or ASR) and a VCA to yeld the results I am aiming at.
Here are a couple of resourceful videos in case it can help:
- The Modular Spaghetti Solutions - Making a Eurorack modular Techno kick drum with an envelope generator. No VCA needed
- Sinus - Tech Talk 004 Make Your Own Kickdrum In Eurorack Pure Analog Deep Full Live Patching
- Thomann - How to create the perfect kick drum | Lets Patch | Thomann
- DJ TechTools - How To Make An Analog Kick with Tobi Neumann
- Voltage Control Lab - Eurorack Modular Kick Drum Tutorial
- Stazma - Analog Kick Drum tutorial: Stazma Modular Tips & Tricks
-- Loersatz

Great links, I haven't seen all these, but the Tobi Neumann video is how I learned to patch a kick. :)

Muddiness usually occurs in a mix when there are multiple lower frequencies, these tend to clash more than higher frequencies.
Do you have drums and/or multiple voices in you system that you use as bass sounds?
There are a couple of things you can try here:
- Narrow down the deep bass voices to one at a time, or mix them in one by one to see when it starts to sound muddy
- If you use multiple voices/drums in the lower frequencies, use highpass filters to filter out the lowest colliding frequencies
- Create a sidechain with you kick and bass: mult the trigger signal that triggers the kick to a AD/AR envelope, invert this envelope and set the offset to +5V, so that when the envelope is triggered the signal is moved from +5V to 0V and back. Patch the bass voice into a VCA with the CV controlled by the inverted/offset envelope, and patch this to the mix output. Now the bass gets "silenced" when the kick hits, creating a more clean mix
- Use two separate mixer modules (doesn't have to be a mixer as a lot of modules can mix signals among doing other things, MN Maths for example) and mix on your PC, as you usually have more options in a DAW for equalizing and to see at what frequency the issue occurs. Something like Expert Sleepers ES8 can work as well, you can send your separate sounds to the ES8 and mix them in a DAW.

Like mentioned in the posts above, it can also be that there's an issue with the loudness of the output from your eurorack, as these are generally way louder than normal synth/instrument volume levels. Try to decrease the volume output of your eurorack to see it if sounds less muddy.

Good luck!
-- deurstopjoris

Tons of good info here, thanks!

The side chain idea...is that a type of "ducking"?

@HGsynth Thank you for your confidence. I need to think about it, I'll send you a PM shortly.
-- Sweelinck

Please, if you don't mind...

Such info may be more informative if openly shared (hinit hint wink wink!)....:)

I'm at a place where HGsynth was a little while ago, so I'm getting loads of useful and pertinent knowledge following along...I'm sure others will appreciate it as well.

I like your chill stuff but I'm all for whatever musical adventures you find satisfying in the moment! :)

Perhaps 'nothing but chill' will narrow your possibilities? You could aim for 9/10 chill and throw in the odd banger to keep people on their toes! ;) :D

Yes!

Plaits' last orange mode is so good for video game sounds, right?! :)

Good work, thanks for sharing!

Nice, love the ending!

Love how it builds up!

That's some good work there, love the tasty guitar licks around 6:45ish...thanks for sharing! :)

Looking for a bit of tips and feedback

I am building a Matyhs only rack. I want to see how far I can get with a case with only (mostly?) Maths in it.

Looking for:
* creative ways to patch Maths(es)
* your experience (or things you have seen) in using Maths creatively
* how far you think a system like this can go (and whether only Maths is feasible)

Thx people!
-- cassek

First of all, interesting idea, and I wish you luck in your attempts at a Maths only rack.

That said, just because Maths can do many different things, doesn't mean the way it does those things are ideal, or even workable. Take Maths as a 'VCA'...it's possible, but only as the crudest version, and not very workable.

If you happen to have this many Maths, more power to you and I hope to see some of your results!

If you're thinking of shelling out for this setup, I'd consider long and hard if other modules, actually geared toward a particular functionality (such as VCA, VCF, etc.) might not get you farther.

Otherwise, the approach kind of reminds me of zero-input mixing setups a bit. Which might be fun. :)

When the Command Center page is loading a new rack, an alternate version of Clean up the Mess Cat appears.

WTF? Cat. I need WTF Cat merch.

Wtf.
Thanks,
mike.
-- mikenoface

I wholeheartedly 2nd this emotion! :D

I started with some semi-modular (4 Neutrons) to complement my digital piano and Nord Wave, got hooked and then gradually branched into modular as I wanted to try new things, learning as I went. Part of that was regularly trying out and selling modules when they weren't quite what I was looking for - I think I've sold at least 70 modules. I see people constantly asking what they need for their rack and I don't really relate to that very well because to me you should just start with enough to make some noise and then when you want to do or try something but can't, that'll inform what you want/need real quick. My "rack" so to speak (it's really more of a sprawling mess haha) is pretty large now, but as you said, the point is not to use it all at once - it's like having a bunch of guitars/pedals, it just gives you more options when trying to find whatever sound you're looking for in a given instance. Mine grew to its current size over the course of 4 or 5 years, I couldn't possibly have planned it all out in advance. But I did have a strong vision for my music, I think that's what a lot of people are missing and maybe what makes the journey more confusing for a lot of people.
-- adaris

This is a great post chock full of great advice.

A few nuggets of wisdom from this post, IMHO, need highlighting:

• "I see people constantly asking what they need for their rack and I don't really relate to that very well because to me you should just start with enough to make some noise and then when you want to do or try something but can't, that'll inform what you want/need real quick."

Yes, ^this exactly.

-"the point is not to use it all at once - it's like having a bunch of guitars/pedals, it just gives you more options"

I'm guilty of over-patching in an attempt to "use everything" but that's more an attempt at "learning" through trial and error than a "music production" aesthetic....and after my first few months of patching I've come around to the "less is sometimes more" aspect of not patching the kitchen sink each and every time.

-"I did have a strong vision for my music, I think that's what a lot of people are missing and maybe what makes the journey more confusing for a lot of people."

And this is key. Modular is a major distraction from music-making, IF you don't know how to funnel your energies in order to harness the tools at your disposal. I think I'd be a bit in over my head if I didn't have a crystal clear idea of what I want my music to be (and maybe even more importantly, what I DON'T want it to be...)

Thanks for your post, and for sharing your pearls of wisdom! Good stuff! :)

Mutable Instrument Server is down.
Can any one send me the update file please.
Thans (wäre super)

Gruss Bruno
-- Meistbr1

MI Plaits Update File v1.2 & Instructions

Another patch test from my lil' rack ... I've been putting everything thru their paces, doing deep dives into manuals, finding sweet interactions between units, and generally building up a personal toolbox of patching skills from scratch.

Here's what things are sounding like after 6-8 weeks of euroracking:

https://on.soundcloud.com/Jsq4M

First half is just a jaunty jam, second half cranks up the 266t for some stop-and-start drum stuff.

Bass drum is from the Dixie II+, high hat and snares I'm pulling from the white noise output of the 266t (multed).

Plaits as main synth voice.

I always welcome constructive criticism, lay it on me! :)

Thanks so much for reading, looking, listening, & and feedback!

EDITED Mar 24th 2023, 18:43

Thanks for sharing! :)

I personally really enjoy the visuals to your videos. :)

I don't feel they distract from the music at all. In fact, in the second video's case, I'd argue it adds to the music.

Good work!

My new video is online. It’s a melodic ambient jam. I hope you will enjoy it!

-- Raaf

Love it! Thank you for sharing, eagerly awaiting the next one! :)

Any chance of you hitting us in the future with a Vince Clarke-era Depeche Mode jam??? :)

-- Jukeshoe

Why not ! I’m thinking about It more and more seriously because tou are not the only one to ask for it ! Ha ha !

Have to think about the track ! Get the Balance right ? New life ? Everything’s count ? 😊

-- luvdattek

Great minds think alike! :)

All great song choices...Dreaming of Me or New Life would be my vote(s)!!!!! :)

Any chance of you hitting us in the future with a Vince Clarke-era Depeche Mode jam??? :)

Definitely some choice sounds emanating, great visual style, too! :)

Thanks for sharing your new channel with us, I think you will have much success!

I love the presentation style of no talking during the music with the text overlays; however, a few of them seemed to disappear just a bit too quickly for ease of reading.

Other than that very minor detail, I thought the video was very good.

I especially enjoyed the info on Saraswati, little details like that are lovely and enriching. :)

Best wishes on your new endeavor!

All I see is a bunch of Socialists hanging out on this page. For half price, I'll buy the Behringer stuff all day long. It's actually a feather in Uli's cap that his legal team keeps figuring out ways to out-perform the marketplace. Capitalism isn't for the faint of heart. Get better lawyers or move back home and cry to your mamas and I'll go buy another half price Eurotrash module.
-- longhairgreg

Ha, I don't think you realize capitalism works both ways...the consumer has the right to buy the products they want. When the consumers decide some company is ripping beloved companies off, and take their dollars elsewhere, that is the definition of a boycott.

Any self-respecting capitalist would recognize boycotting as a key feature of a capitalist society. It is a tool that holds self-respecting companies in check.

I have a couple of pieces of Behringer studio gear, not going to lie. Their prices are ridiculously attractive for things like mixers, or 19" studio gear. I bought this stuff prior to knowing anything about Behringer, and honestly, it's actually pretty good bang for the buck.

HOWEVER, just a bit of research into modular started really throwing up some disgusting personal and business practices, breach of law or at least ethics kinds of stuff. After learning this, I decided I didn't care if I could build a rack at half the price...I don't want some chithead racist corporate thief's equipment in my synth, and I'll probably never buy another piece of Behringer gear again.

I really can't hold it against anyone for having Behringer gear...I get it.

But the schwag comparison above is apt. I'd rather pay out the premium for the kush, direct from the source, nice and fresh, and support the growers, than get some 'merch brickweed routed through the Mexi border at a steal of a deal.

Two powerful modules all together in a drone/industrial/post apocalyptic ambiance. Quadrax and Plaits.

-- -ADR-

I literally just updated to firmware v1.2 on Plaits Friday night and have been extensively playing with the Orange settings...great, great stuff.

Thanks for sharing your video explorations! :)
-- Jukeshoe

awesome stuff,i tried updating to last firmware playing from my laptops headphone out into plaits,but it failed,have to try from my phone maybe

-- Broken-Form

It took me about 10-15 tries to get it to work, it was a bit of a hassle, but well worth it!

It really wants you to dial the "gain" in to the 2-3 LED range, anything above is too loud and will give you the red lights. Anything below is too quiet and the signal doesn't seem to transfer.

I ended up switching from one laptop to another, and while dialing in the gain settings, finally got it to go thru.

Keep trying! :)

Detailed instructions under 'Firmware Update Procedure' can be found
here.

Note: it says to start with the dial at 12 oclock, but if the gain's too low, it really wants you to start it at a higher level, or at least that's how I got it to eventually work. If you try to start it and then up the gain, it doesn't seem to work. I'd start at 12 and if that doesn't do the trick, then try initiating the sequence with the dial in a more clockwise position. :)

I do also have the ADE-50 which usually leaves me with plenty of vcas...or at least it hasn't been a problem yet.

Bah, my too casual a look blended the ADE-50 with the Maths, totally missed it. Cheers.

-- FredFoxtrott

It's all good, friend, thanks for taking a look and for the listen! :)

What a lovely little system! I enjoyed the low end of your patch a lot. The Source of Uncertainty will be a lot of fun to patch with maths and the 0-ctrl for sure.
-- zuggamasta

I appreciate the kinds words!

The SoU has been a lot of fun so far, it really kicks things into high gear. :)

EDITED Feb 20th 2023, 15:36

I noticed you have Intellijel (love them) Quad VCA, which has great additional features of boosts, individual attenuator pots, etc, WMD makes a real interesting Triple Bi-polar VCA. I don't think you need more VCAs like that. Maybe not as simple as the A-130-8v from Doepfer, but just some extra VCAs that allow you to take advantage of all the power you already have. Oh and along with those VCAs some LFOs, maybe throw an øchd in there :)
-- FredFoxtrott

I do also have the ADE-50 which usually leaves me with plenty of vcas...or at least it hasn't been a problem yet.

I do really like the idea of the øchd, that's a great recommendation for a module of which I was unaware, and I do most often find myself wishing for another dixie (for an lfo source) independent of the dixie itself (rather than just multed or stackcabled). If that makes sense.

Great food for thought. Appreciate the feedback!

imho this is actually a nice little rack. If you are just beginning you have all you need VCOs, VCFs, VCA, a sequencer, and some FX. You will of course grow into your own way of using them together and you'll get more stuff soon enough. I suggest as you do to get more simple VCAs and proper ADSRs. Maths is great in a pinch, but good ADSRs open up many new paths for modulation. Can't wait to hear more!
-- FredFoxtrott

Thanks for listening and I appreciate the advice!

By more simple VCAs, do you mean non-cascading? Not sure I follow...

ADSR advice, on the other hand, understood and noted! Thank you, again! :)

My 4 1/2 year old kiddo keeps requesting this song and enjoys dancing to it! :)

QONG30" (Eurorack patch experiment)

My humble newb patching experiments are yielding such things as the above after a couple of weeks of deep diving into Eurorack.

This is the setup I'm using:
(https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_2173874.jpg)

Constructive criticism and feedback always welcome, especially on technical issues!

Thanks to the community for all the help on the rack layout so that I could get to this point. Couldn't have done it without out you (well, I could've but it would've been far more painful, lol!)...:)

mind blown

Thanks for sharing a video of such a cool idea! :)

Two powerful modules all together in a drone/industrial/post apocalyptic ambiance. Quadrax and Plaits.

-- -ADR-

I literally just updated to firmware v1.2 on Plaits Friday night and have been extensively playing with the Orange settings...great, great stuff.

Thanks for sharing your video explorations! :)

I was kinda wondering why there weren't more bright colors.

I'd rack iridescent chartreuse or dayglo orange if I could get them. Black and silver are boring.

YMMV! :)

EDITED Feb 18th 2023, 05:50

That's awesome! Well done! :)

If you're going with the 0-coast, you should probably take a hard look at the 0-ctrl.

It works as a clock, sequencer as well as an envelope, pulse, and gate generator.

Obviously pairs well with the 0-coast as they are designed to be used together.

Best wishes! :)

a chaos generator like Wogglebug

no - wogglebug is random not chaotic - so not a chaos generator

there's a difference... both produce "unpredictable" results but in different ways

random is as random as possible - usually pseudo-random, as the generator needs to be seeded, if using a processor to generate your random - you may be able to modulate the upper and lower bounds or the seed, but it's still random

a die roll is random - it will generate a number between 1 & 6 with an equal probability - let's call it r

whereas chaos will have some sort of rule - or an attractor - essentially a function - to influence the outcome - f(r)

possible very simplistic rule (attracts to 3.5ish) if more than 4 subtract 2 if less than 3 add 2 (3,4,3,4,3,4)
or if a product of 2 divide by 2 - so you get (1,1, 2, 3, 3 , 5 )

roll the die and apply rule

often the previous chaotically generated number will be used in the function to generate the current chaotic value - in order to give a more similar result - or maybe an lfo will be used to influence the outcome - possibly with speed and offset as modulateable parameters or possibly both strategies will be employed simultaneously

obviously these are incredibly basic examples - iirc there's links to much more in depth discussions of chaos on the nonlinearcircuits website (iirc Andrew the owner has a phD in designing chaotic circuits)
-- JimHowell1970

Thanks for the clarification!

I'm a newb so not much advice/perspective I can add other than to say, I had Plaits suggested to me for my setup, which also contains Maths/Dixie/Quad VCA, and I've been loving it.

e.g., Dixie pulses enveloped via Maths and used to trigger the percussive modes of Plaits gets some interesting ambience, if you play around enough.

With the firmware update, Plaits has an LFO mode, which paired with Dixie gives you good flexibility if you want one to act as the clock for the other.

Someone also suggested (to me) a chaos generator like Wogglebug to add an element of unpredictability, if you have room for it. Not essential but something fun to keep in mind. Ambient, in my experience, thrives on chaos.

FX Aid pro kept coming up in my search for FX, so sounds like you can't go wrong with that recommendation.

Good luck, have fun, and seriously consider wise people's advice when they say, "You may need a bigger case."

I started out with a 64 HP "budget setup" that quickly ballooned to 128 HP despite everything I could do, lulz.

While I'm very happy with a smaller setup, too small a setup might not achieve all the things you want, particularly polyphony.

Here's a link to a good thread from the forum on why polyphony isn't easily achievable....item #4 in particular.

Best wishes, good luck, and enjoy the ride! :)

Fusion success! :)

Love the "sax" freakout solo!

I love all of Miles' music and appreciate the Brew influence...

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for sharing! Love it! :)

A Buffered Mult: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-buff-mult

You will be able to modulate multiple parameters simultaneously with a single voltage source (1 x 6) or send the same pitch sequence to both Dixie and Plaits, or split the Out from Plaits into multiple paths (i.e one into MFX—one into Filter) and create a multi-dimensional layered sound that you could Pan around. Lots more.
-- Toccata

Excellent! That was my first instinct; again, we seem to be on the same wavelength. :)

I definitely like the idea of the flexibility and extra capability of a buffered mult vs. using stackcables or those multi hub thingys. And I definitely like feeding things into the x-pan.

Great advice, thanks as always! I will continue to think about it before making the decision, but this goes a long way towards helping me. :)

Any other thoughts on other possible ways to use up the last 2hp, anyone?

This is where it stands now. Still 2hp to work with. Gonna think long and hard about it.

Suggestions?

Thanks! :)

EDITED Feb 14th 2023, 22:39

Also, for the record, 0-ctrl has quantized voltage outputs via knobs for each step, largely removing the need for a quantized voltage module, as long as you don't have a tin ear and are comfy tuning manually.

Likewise, there's a clock source. and sequencer. May still need a divider down the line, but for a small setup, the 0-ctrl handles timing, gates, and quantized voltages...paired with the cycle of Maths, and I'm pretty well covered in that area.

EDITED Feb 11th 2023, 17:09

Jim is correct, though, of course.

99% of the time, I think the Mantis would've been the way to go. It simply doesn't fit my space or workflow. :)

the other 1% of the time the space/workflow needs tweaking to fit...

-- JimHowell1970

Lol...

Sorry, not the "case" for me.