Ooo, I'll have to dig into that. Cheers
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Ooo, I'll have to dig into that. Cheers
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Hi,
Through the Midi Control Center Software you can access the velocity damping values of each sequencer (1 and 2).
I leave you a post from the arturia forum that was useful for me to adapt the output range of the BSP with eurorack modules.
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Velocity Cv range could be attenuated with the MCC. You can find this parameter in Device Settings, Global section and it is ----named Seq1 (or Seq2) Velocity Scaling.
You can choose between 10 values from 1 to 10. 1 is min range, 10 is max range, no attenuation. When no attenuation (value = 10) velocity range is about 0-12V (0 for min velocity 01 and 12V for max velocity 127). So the 12V are divided by 127 values.
Max attenuation (value = 1) is 1/10e of max range so the output goes from 0V to about 1.5V. 1.5V is now divided by 127values.
You can approximate max output using this formula (ParamValue is your MCC setting) :
Max Output Voltage = 12 * ParamValue /10
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First suggestion: Erica Synths Black Stereo Mixer V3 (or V2).
Great little mixer and same brand/aesthetic as your Black Wavetable VCO (as you wished).
10 HP.
Second suggestion: Befaco STMix. Excellent small mixer too.
6 HP.
Both suggested modules accept mono AND stereo.
'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks
oops, double post!
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
OK, thanks.
Just giving it a go with the Patching Panda Punch and it does something but not as well as shooting it a gate, it seems a low velocity is the default High and a high velocity is a low or reduced accent. Weird.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
I would like to add a Mixer module on my system
what you suggest?
something mono, or stereo?
it will be nice if the choice will be on one of the brands I have, just to look fine inside the case...?
should work fine... as long as the voltage is high enough and the signal is as long as you want it to be...
if the module's expecting a trigger/gate it's probably expecting a threshold to be reached to apply the accent and a drop below that threshold to stop applying the accent...
not sure how the velocity is done in the beatstep pro - I've never used it on mine - but I suspect that it just outputs a voltage based on the max output / the value of the velocity... and then turn off once the step is over... so effectively a gate at the level specified by the velocity value
shouldn't hurt anyway - give it a try!! - it's all just control voltage
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google translate:
"Hello everyone, in my Doepfer chain I have inserted the Delay 2hp module...but the Delay response I got didn't satisfy me, I struggle to obtain repeat effects...has this happened to you too? I think to replace with 2hp Verb"
delays usually require feedback to produce more than 1 repeat - try turning the feedback up or addressing it with CV...
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If I have a module that has an Accent input and its expecting a Gate or Trigger is it possible to use the Velocity output on the Beatsteo Pro to do this. I realise I could use 2 sequencer patterns but that would take up, you guessed it, 2 sequencer lanes!
Thanks
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
Not sure if you own the Joranalogue x2 but you could remove both of those, swap for a single module that does both e.g. Intellijel Audio Interface @ 10Hp. Then you have an extra 2hp for the Sea Legs. No need for a new rack. But depends on what you own already.
what about 8hp modules, like the bastl ikarie (stereo filter) + bastl basil (stereo delay)?
or maybe using the steady state gate as mono filter in 8hp?
They seem to be good gapfillers.
I would like to try them.
Greetings
Chris
So this is a departure from the usual eurorack only recordings. I used a couple VSTs for some reason - probably because I didn't have to get off the couch. ;-) I bought a Launch Pad Pro a few weeks ago and have really been loving playing on the grid. This track has its core layed down by the modular, but I added a bass track and a lead track that were performed on the LPP. It really does lend itself to different licks than what I can do on a keyboard. Cheers!
By a Thread - Patch Notes
Pad:
Endless processor fed by Elements, into Bionic Lester
BL modulated by The Hypster
Kick and Percussion from VPME QD
Modular Drums:
Kick triggered by LL8
Percussion triggered by Euclidean Circles Channel 1 & 2 and A-151 switching, modulated by Mod Medusa, panning by Kermit
DAW Drums:
Hi Hat and fills by EZ Drummer, sequenced in Studio One
Bass:
Arturia ARP 2600 V3 - performed on Launch Pad Pro, midi recorded in Studio One
Rhythm Melodies:
Elements sequenced by Metropolix and into Veno-Echo into Performance Mixer
Elements modulated by Wave Packets
Brenso sequenced by Stochastic Inspiration Generator
Brenso into Blades into Mimeophon
Brenso wave folding and Blades cutoff modulated by Mod Medusa
Lead:
Buchla Easel V - performed on Launch Pad Pro, midi recorded in Studio One
Visuals created in ArtMatic Designer
For an external sequencer, regardless of the size of your setup, BeatStep Pro is a great solution.
indeed it is! and it's a keeper - ie it's always useful no matter how big your rack gets to... currently I predominantly use mine for sequencing song part/chord progression changes on my sinfonion - clocked from the sinfonion...
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Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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For an external sequencer, regardless of the size of your setup, BeatStep Pro is a great solution.
In the meantime, and about sequencing melody with Pam’s Pro, see that video at 5:17
'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks
get a mantis - easily portable - I've travelled a lot with mine on planes (perfectly sized for hand lugggage), trains and buses and used to live on the 2nd floor (or 3rd if you're american) with no lift... and that's with just the standard tiptop case - there's a 3rd party briefcase that's more rugged if you're worried about it!
then you'll have plenty of space to add modules without sacrificing others - at least until the mantis is full!
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Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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I chose this size of rack (64X Pod) because it fits perfect into my Peli case.. it has similar dimensions to the Elektron machines, which makes it easy to pack and plan.
There's 18HP left so the 'sealegs' (I really want) for instance wouldnt actually fit it.. I'm considering geting a bigger rack or putting the Data Bender out since I also need a cool filter in there.. I always wanted to get the 'stereo dipole', but also that one wouldnt fit haha
Any suggestions? I might need to get a bigger pelicase, but I also live in the 4th floor without an elevator - the smaller the better...
OK...
1 get a bigger case - small cases are very often a false economy... as you will end up buying another case within a few weeks or months... better to start off with that slightly bigger case - a tip top mantis is an excellend starter case and one of the best bangs for money in eurorack (hp/cost/manufacturer reputation/decent power)
these tiny cases are great for mission specific roles when you know what you are doing, but at the moment neither of these appply to you
how are you going to plqy this? are you expecting to play it via a keyboard or from a DAW? then you are missing the midi to cv module you need... only 1/2 the module is included in the case - you still need the cv output part... Pams includes some random sequence generation, amongst other things (rtfm), but it's likely that sooner or later and probably sooner you'll want to be able to create a sequence - and there's no space left in the case for that... NB there are external sequencers - maybe one of these would be a good idea...
in a case this small there's not really enough space for multiple voices - something will be missing... a filter for the dixie for example... stick to one voice and what's needed to support it rather than trying to do too much in too small a case...
again in a small case there is no space for overlap when not needed - the functionality of the EG can be covered by pams (again rtfm)
I would either just get a bigger case and start with a few modules - a sound source, a sound modifier, a modulation source, a way to play and a way to listen - which in this case may just be Pams, plaits (you'll likely only get a clone - ALA for example), an effect mdoule and a headphone output: Pams covers (to some extent) the way to play and the modulation source, plaits is the sound source (including vca, filter and has some internal modulation based on the envelope sent into the level) etc
OR
ignore the size of the case for now - start with a 9u (or 10u, if you must have 1u) 104hp or bigger case in modulargrid and put the modules you really want in it (taking into account the functionality that you want - ie 2 voices) and try to work out the modules that you need to support those and then show us the result for critique - then buy a case that is appropriate for the modules and leaves 20%+ free for expansion so that you are not going to need to buy another case almost immediately when you see that module that you need a week after you've finished buying all the modules that you think you want and the modules that we've pointed out that you need in order to support them properly
and take a look at my signature... spend a decent amount of time thinking about it and how it applies to you and the modules you think you want...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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I've made a rack full of modules that I think would be good for a beginner for generating ideas. I don't plan on using this rack for anything specific, just to tinker and mess around with. Would this be a good starter? Should I add or remove anything? I'll be getting a case with two rows of 62hp, so I'll have plenty of room for additions.
Thanks Jim, there are somes great ideas there.
no problem... just hope it helps...
Can you recommend a power supply for the Data? Building a case isn't a problem.
hmm... depends, really... I like the befaco power supplies - I have a lot of the excalibus ones (built are available, but they are a really easy, if tedious DIY build - 26 power headers with 16 pins each!!!) - they are really quiet in my experience and I use them for video as well as audio - which has a much higher need for quiet at much higher frequencies (MHz, not just KHz) but they're a bit big for a case just for a DATA - excalibus is meant for powering 6u/84hp... they do a smaller power supply too, but
much dirtier, but ok for audio I've used frequency central ones - they are small and cheap, but they need a deep case... also easy to DIY... if you DIY and source all the parts yourself from tayda it should work out at about 50 quid including the wall wart... no 5v though - and the power stats on here for the DATA look wrong compared to the mordax site - the FC power supplies really only supply 500mA - so 400mA or less in practice (I suspect DATA has some inrush needs)
otherwise maybe a uZeus... but they use the panel as a heatsink - and recommend metal rails to dissipate the heat - which the others don't need so you could get away with screwing any panels straight into the wood - I did this for a while before building my first DIY case - I had a really dodgy 9u held together by modules and blank panels - no rails, no sides, no back - literally just modules, blank panels and 4 bits of wood
The step8 is primarily used as a sequencer but since getting the Rene it hasn't been getting used so much but it's still used as more of a cv source than anything else.
OK I'd be tempted to use it as a second sequencer to transpose the rene (you'll need. that precision adder back in the case though)
TBH I never consider the rack to be lacking mixing capabilty other than fx sends etc
that's kind of what I suspected after I looked again at your rack and noticed that the erica output was also a mixer!
fx sends = matrix mixer... maybe a stereo one - I usually use my matrix mixers for combining modulation souorces to get more complex modulation sources though... which is one more reason to make that expander case a bit bigger than you think you need just for the
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Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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I'm down for the tex mix but I'm not going to be buying a new case. What can I lose to make room for one?
-- padmasanwell that's a difficult one - I've only ever sold one module - because I really didn't like it and always added cases - I've built 4 cases myself - have you considered that??
tbh - I didn't notice the black output had mixing capabilities when I initially scanned your rack!
do you think you actually have a mixing problem?
I went back and re-read your first post...
what don't you like about your workflow? could it be solved with some longer patch cables?
have you tried both of the module arrangement strategies that I outlined in my first post?
have you tried taking all the modules out of the case putting a single voice in and working ou the best workflow for that, for you and then adding another and repeating etc etc
I'd move the mixer down and the squid salmple up one row, same with the shelves - maybe consider taking data out and into a small case on it's own... I know you said no to another case, but I'm just suggesting a 16-20hp satellite.... 5 bits of wood a few screws and a power supply - 50-60 quid... not another mantis!
that would allow you enough space to add back in some (or all - your little satellite case would need too be a little bit bigger) of the bottom row...
how are you using your step8 - as a sequencer or as a modulation source? I'd probably move this down too... same with Pams...
-- JimHowell1970
Thanks Jim, there are somes great ideas there.
Can you recommend a power supply for the Data? Building a case isn't a problem.
The step8 is primarily used as a sequencer but since getting the Rene it hasn't been getting used so much but it's still used as more of a cv source than anything else.
TBH I never consider the rack to be lacking mixing capabilty other than fx sends etc
Thanks again
I'm down for the tex mix but I'm not going to be buying a new case. What can I lose to make room for one?
-- padmasan
well that's a difficult one - I've only ever sold one module - because I really didn't like it and always added cases - I've built 4 cases myself - have you considered that??
tbh - I didn't notice the black output had mixing capabilities when I initially scanned your rack!
do you think you actually have a mixing problem?
I went back and re-read your first post...
what don't you like about your workflow? could it be solved with some longer patch cables?
have you tried both of the module arrangement strategies that I outlined in my first post?
have you tried taking all the modules out of the case putting a single voice in and working ou the best workflow for that, for you and then adding another and repeating etc etc
I'd move the mixer down and the squid salmple up one row, same with the shelves - maybe consider taking data out and into a small case on it's own... I know you said no to another case, but I'm just suggesting a 16-20hp satellite.... 5 bits of wood a few screws and a power supply - 50-60 quid... not another mantis!
that would allow you enough space to add back in some (or all - your little satellite case would need too be a little bit bigger) of the bottom row...
how are you using your step8 - as a sequencer or as a modulation source? I'd probably move this down too... same with Pams...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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I'm down for the tex mix but I'm not going to be buying a new case. What can I lose to make room for one?
I can totally second the Tesseract Tex Mix system. It is really great. I have experienced zero noise bleed issues and read about several who had but moved the noisy modules away from it and it cleared right up.
I would also recommend the Roland 531 Mixer. I have one, but would love to have a whole row of them.
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Recently I've been using Nano Ona for bass, I think it was somebody here turned me on to it when they mentioned they had used it for a bass sound I liked, it's got a couple of more complex waveforms that are great for mixing with the usual sine, triangle, saw, and square/pulse, plus there are two different sub-octave outputs that can be used for this purpose as well. The price is nice too.
Every rack will benefit from Pamelas Workout (New/Pro). Definitely a great 3rd module
Can you recommend such a mixer? I have the Addac and Tritone in the spare row. Should these be incorporated.
I thought I was doing ok on the mixer front
well, there's ok and there's OK!!! hehehe
I use a tesseract modular tex-mix, which I like quite a lot - it's modular and expandable and has a decent range of features - all channels have panning, mutes, cue and effects send - mono channels also have vcas... it's also available both ready built and DIY (I like a bit of DIY & this DIY is easy - it's basically just the panel furniture) - you buy/build a master section (with the send/returns master out and headphone jack and groups of 4 channels, either mono or stereo, there are also direct output modules for connecting to your audio interface, for example... sends are mono/returns are stereo... but if you have a stereo channels module they can be patched to work in stereo (as the a send is only L & the B send is only R) - some people complain about a bit of bleed (which has never bothered me) but I have worked this out to be related to the sends, at least for me... muting a channel does not cut the send... this is a relatively inexpensive solution... it's just the one that I have and like working with, especially for the price! others to look at might be the befaco hexmix/hexpander, wmd performance mixer (if you can find one - may be a new version in the future from ammt) and the frap tools version (which is really a high end and high priced version of the tex-mix) never actually used any of these though - so can't really recommend any...
but saying that one of these probably doesn't replace any of your existing mixers, it'll just make how you use them different, they'll become sub- mixers...
good to see you've got a vcam - I don't have one but I do really like my matrix mixers!
I don't like having spare modules lieing about - I'd much rather have some blind panels in the cases - so I'd be buying another case about now and trying to work out how to join 3 mantises together... I'm sure there are some ideas in the mantis thread on modwiggler... this may actually help your issue too... some space between modules can help with workflow...
Not sure how the wife would feel about that and I can see the blinds being slowly replaced by modules.
well it's a good test of whether she's a keeper or not...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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Ah, interesting! If I recall correctly I've only pasted a URL in. I once knew HTML... Now that you mention it, I think I may have used a hyphen and a greater than sign to denote signal flow in a builder's note. When I get a chance I'll go try some things and report back. Thanks for the info!
And most welcome--it's a very useful resource for ideas and planning. Recently I tried reorganizing my rack on the fly without MG, and it took far longer with more furrowed brows!
A bit late to the conversation, but a fairly inexpensive module to add more low-end would be the tiptop audio fold (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tiptop-audio-fold-processor). You do need an oscillator to feed it, which might be a downside for you. However you could use any oscillator I believe, especially sine wave are working just fine (I'm mostly using one from Qu-Bit's Tone filter in self-oscillating mode).
Besides a wavefolder, which sounds pretty awesome in low-end in my opinion, you get square wave outputs from the source frequency plus 1, 2 and 3 octave shifts down. You can mix these together however you like.
Also, modulating the "fold" and "inject" with CV has a big impact on subdivided output as well. It makes for a sort of pulse-width modulation effect. Divkid has of course an excellent video on it, highlighting the sub out and its modulation as well:
ok why are the spare modules not in the case (other than obvious space issues)?
That's purely why except the clock divider which I'd love to use but its depth is a pain and will only fit in one spot in each case. I'd rather not have spares and will sell what I don't need but this is kind of the advice I am seeking. What to keep and what to get rid off.
another way to look at it is to group by voices... starting at the left with oscillators, but you generally still end up with sequencing (control) at bottom left and end of chain mixer at bottom right... if of course you have an end of chain mixer, which it doesn't look like
Can you recommend such a mixer? I have the Addac and Tritone in the spare row. Should these be incorporated.
I thought I was doing ok on the mixer front
I don't like having spare modules lieing about - I'd much rather have some blind panels in the cases - so I'd be buying another case about now and trying to work out how to join 3 mantises together... I'm sure there are some ideas in the mantis thread on modwiggler... this may actually help your issue too... some space between modules can help with workflow...
Not sure how the wife would feel about that and I can see the blinds being slowly replaced by modules.
-- JimHowell1970
I like this one quite a bit, think you will also. And having a double saves rack space!
I've got the Kit here waiting to build, hoping its going to be just the thing to match with my Acidrain Chainsaw's stereo outs.
Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.
And given the choice in excellent modules of about 4 to 8 HP I'm sure it will be a nice little companion for my synths in a few years or months. :)
I would also serioulsy consider larger modules than this - otherwise ergonomics will become an issue!
I've already orderd my next module: an envelope follower/gate.
I've got my eyes on a few sample & hold modules like the Doepfer A-118-2, Doepfer A-184-1 or the Erica Synths Pico LFO/S&H. I'll see what modules I'll want to/need connect to the S&H of my choosing.
Next might be an oscillator.
-- MeneerJansen
odd hp modules are a pita.... you end pu with gaps... personally I try to avoid abything less than 4hp and prefer bigger modules where possible... much easier to get at the knobs then!
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Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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unfortunately discontinued...
-- JimHowell1970
Life is very tough!!
-- troux
nah - I got one already - at least in the world of clock divider ownership - life is sweet!!! hahaha
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Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
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A dual filter with self-resonance.
Straightforward build, quite a few parts.
And when done it sounds great, this is a nice unit and since it’s a double will save you rack space with good sound. Recommended.
Indeed. All of those are great. Swoop 'em up while you can...
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Spring Rolls - Live Recording #002
Modular Live improvisation (Raw sound / No Mastering)
Setup : Modular Synthesizer + Beatstep Pro + OTO Boum + Two Notes Audio Engineering Le Clean
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I'd grab a midi->cv module soonish - using v/oct for the cutoff is a classic technique...
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I'm not sure I'd have got into modular just to get a filter - there are 'pedals' that can do thatre the voltage mismatch: this is what offset modules are for - something like the happy nerding 3 * mia, for example - attenuate/attenuvert and offset... it's why we keep saying utilities are so important... (see signasture)
-- JimHowell1970
You're right. That's why I went for the Nifty Case. It's got Midi to CV conversion on board: 2 CV/gate outputs for 2 Midi channels + mod + clock output. A pedal/stompbox, like you said, can do the same (w/ an envelope follower). But, like you implied I think, that might not be the ideal companion for a synthesizer: Midi to CV is.
I didn't buy these modules to keep it at that. I wanted to dip my toes in. The way it is now 85% (72 of the 84 HP) of the case is still empty and ready for future "G.A.S.". And given the choice in excellent modules of about 4 to 8 HP I'm sure it will be a nice little companion for my synths in a few years or months. :)
I've already orderd my next module: an envelope follower/gate.
I've got my eyes on a few sample & hold modules like the Doepfer A-118-2, Doepfer A-184-1 or the Erica Synths Pico LFO/S&H. I'll see what modules I'll want to/need connect to the S&H of my choosing.
Next might be an oscillator.
If you want immediate satisfaction for the sounds you seem to be hunting for, I would encourage you to go with any voice module from NOISE ENGINEERING.
-- AEROCATONE
+1
Knowing that:
‘Today, we say goodbye to four of our popular modules: Basimilus Iteritas Alter, Manis Iteritas, Cursus Iteritas, and Ataraxic Iteritas’. (The Noise Engineering Blog - 08/15/2023).
https://noiseengineering.us/blogs/loquelic-literitas-the-blog/goodbye-iteritas
'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks
I'll add a dark horse just to mix things up: the Joranalogue Orbit 3. It's best known as a chaos-based LFO, but it goes into audio rate with a flip of a switch and sounds great for bass.
unfortunately discontinued...
-- JimHowell1970
Life is very tough!!
my tunes: https://stevehand.bandcamp.com/
I like Gnarly Times A a lot too @farkas, learning to do live looping with the Squid Salmple has been nice!! No spring reverb on these track, I do have the Doepfer one but I kept getting weird interference... I'd like to try the Intellijel one since it lets you wire up the tank outside of the rack... matter of fact I should pop on over to Control and see if they restocked it 😆
my tunes: https://stevehand.bandcamp.com/
Yeah, man! Gnarly Times A is the winner here! I don't know if you had Ukraine in mind when working on this, but it was very evocative of a wartorn landscape to me. Kind of an early industrial vibe too, which I love. Also, shout out to your Ohio friend. I'm always happy to hear from an Ohioan. :)
I don't know if you have tried out the Doepfer spring reverb (or the Intellijel). I bet you would get a lot of use out of the feedback path in one of those. I kept thinking I was hearing just a little bit of spring in your tracks. Good work! Thanks for sharing (and for the support on my recent track).
If you want immediate satisfaction for the sounds you seem to be hunting for, I would encourage you to go with any voice module from NOISE ENGINEERING.
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So I bought the Rides In The Storm 'SED' filter. At first I wanted the copy of the famous Moog modular filter from Behringer (the 904A) but it was sold out everywhere. And it's meant for the typical way that the Moog modular system of the late 60's works. Hmmmm. Module after module appeared not to work the way I thought/expected, so I went safe and bought 2 modules (EG and Filter) from the same manufacturer.
I'd grab a midi->cv module soonish - using v/oct for the cutoff is a classic technique...
I like the Dreadbox 'Eudemonia' 24 dB/oct filter too, but I read in it's manual that the CV needs to be operated at -5 V to +5 V (which is the standard for an LFO, not an envelope generator). The other input is labelled 1V/oct which I think is meant for keyboard tracking, not an envelope (the 'SED''s got both!). Getting into modular is hard if you ain't got no experience yet.
see above re: v/oct...
I'm not sure I'd have got into modular just to get a filter - there are 'pedals' that can do that - especially for the moog filter - a moogerfooger lpf would have done the job - expensive and only available on the used market in hardware form - but may have alleviated the modular bug/gas! also I think dreadbox make or made some standalone filters and then there's teh obvious sherman filter bank etc...
re the voltage mismatch: this is what offset modules are for - something like the happy nerding 3 * mia, for example - attenuate/attenuvert and offset... it's why we keep saying utilities are so important... (see signasture)
Anyway, I'm more than happy with the two. They have a ton of functionality, some of it a bit "under the hood". For many modules the manual ain't very good/informative. I might post my personals "how to" I wrote down in a text document on the two.
Gonna buy me an evelope follower with Gate functionality soon so I can use the filter with an audio siganl (like an auto-Wah).
-- MeneerJansen
envelope follower with gate is a good idea - always useful - you might want more envelopes then though!!!
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities
ok why are the spare modules not in the case (other than obvious space issues)?
I generally follow the layout of an arp 2600, but with utilities spread all over.. where they make sense...
so sound sources (& any inputs), filters, modulation, effects, control, final output mixing...
start top left, finish bottom right... this works for me in my main audio cases... I basically have sound sources on the top row, modulation on the next row down (with some filters etc to the right), filters on the next row down, percussion next row (waveshapers, logic etc to right), sequencing to the left on 2 rows and on the right effects above end of chain mixer
another way to look at it is to group by voices... starting at the left with oscillators, but you generally still end up with sequencing (control) at bottom left and end of chain mixer at bottom right... if of course you have an end of chain mixer, which it doesn't look like
if you have the top mantis vertical and the bottom one horizontal I'd move the data to the top case... same with the squid salmple...
I don't like having spare modules lieing about - I'd much rather have some blind panels in the cases - so I'd be buying another case about now and trying to work out how to join 3 mantises together... I'm sure there are some ideas in the mantis thread on modwiggler... this may actually help your issue too... some space between modules can help with workflow...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities
That's where the NCOM comes in @JimHowell1970 😆
-- troux
indeed, but a bit pricey for a basic clock divider for creating a sub - I have a dreadbox div - that works perfectly for -1 & -2 8ves & cost almost nothing... unfortunately discontinued...
"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia
Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!
sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities