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That Strymon is OK as a basic pedal interface, but it has limitations, such as no way to properly control I/O levels in the event of a stompbox getting overloaded, or one that outputs too hot of a signal. I'd suggest the Bastl Hendrikson instead...you'd then get some CV control over your wet/dry balance, plus LED indications for overloads. Little more spendy...but you DO get more.

Secondly, you need to downsize some of these modules. Even though this is a proper 6U cab, you still need to be careful about space economy while avoiding ergonomics issues. But if done right...well...

You'll notice that I went with Mutable clones here in all cases except the Beads (which isn't out in clone versions yet), and all of these allowed a great deal of extra space to come into play.

For starters, your Rample now has a dedicated stereo mixer, allowing you to pan and mix your four channels of sampler properly. More mashing allowed a PAIR of Plaits clones, not merely one, and these now get their own summing mixer. The uRinks is your Rings, the u4xVCA is a Veils clone, and between them I put in a single multimode VCF, Bastl's nifty Cinnamon...about the same idea as the Ripples, but with a bit more character. Then the Takaab dual LPG (this is the present version...they downsized it to 2 hp), Beads, and the aforementioned Hendrikson pedal I/O.

Bottom row starts with the Pam's, but then the Nonlinearcircuits chaotic modulator got mashed WAY down into a Zlob Diode Chaos...same sort of idea, much smaller. Marbles became a Pachinko, saving more hp. And by mashing, I was able to add not only a Batumi quad LFO, but its Poti expander as well. There's a Frap 321 after that, which lets you crossmix/mangle/tamper with modulation signals, then an After Later dVCA, which is half of a Veils. Quadrax/Qx, followed by the Ears...then a REAL stereo mixer from Happy Nerding, which allows CV over either level or panning per channel, has your headphone preamp, and also some stereo metering...then this feeds to Happy Nerding's Isolator for your stereo ganged level and transformer isolation on the output.

First off, it's probably a good thing that I looked at this, as you had the size of the Rackbrute wrong. According to Arturia's own docs, it's not 89 hp per row...but 88. Big difference, even though we're only talking 1 hp here. The double VCO setup now lets you set up detuning, resulting in a much fatter sound, or you can use the second Plaits clone as another separate VCO for a different "voice" line. Modulation is HUGELY improved here with the addition of the quad LFO + 321 + VCAs. Also, the Ears is now by the mixer, which should work much better than having it anywhere near the power supply. You can probably get away with a digital module like the Rample, but an input preamp like that next to a power supply opens you up to noise and crud every time you opted to use the Ears where it was. Lastly, REAL mixing, with VCA control and stereo panning...big improvement there.

Even though you've got a few modules already, this should hopefully give you some reasons to rethink how this was going. Cramming a full-on build into even a 6U Rackbrute is a tad difficult unless you shrink modules whenever possible. This should be a much more capable result, even if you only adopt some of the suggestions here.

case : LC6 is a decent choice - @Lugia will be along soon to tell you the LC9 is better valuee for money (which it is) and so are Mantises... but not by that much - personally I think the LC9 is a little bit underpowered...

Modulation: good start

Utilities: good start

Stereo Mixer: it really depends on you - personally I would want at least 2 stereo channels and 2 mono channels that can be panned - for now I wouldn't worry about it

Purchase Order: sounds like Beads and Arbhar are a way off - I would probably want some form of effect at the start either a filter or a multi-fx: fx aid xl seems to be the best of that bunch at the moment

why would you not want maths? - a wonderful modulation source, in a rack of mainly granular and effects - I'd still want modulation sources and utilities no matter what I was doing with my rack
-- JimHowell1970

Agreed. There seems to be little point in tossing out one of the most versatile modulation sources ever made. It's sort of like saying you want a Moog Model 15...but NOT that Moog LPF (despite it being one of the main points of ANY Moog modular). I also don't see the point of the hate-on toward DAWs here. Yes, yes, I KNOW there's been a bunch of "the usual suspects" on YouTube yowling about "DAWless rigs" as of late, but as someone who started in this before anything vaguely resembling a DAW ever existed and who has gone through DAWless use both in the studio AND live and who went through several DAWs over a couple of decades-ish, lemme tell you...this trend is a load of #2s. Comparing my output done WITH Ableton against the work from before I settled on that...well, Ableton lets me work FAST, work EASILY, do things that a DAWless rig would find IMPOSSIBLE, and so on.

It's not the gear. Those who pin their musical failings on their gear are lying to themselves, as are those who think that having some "magic device" will be the express lane to SYNTHGODHOOD. All of that is 100% utter bunk. The fact is, if you're blaming some hardware issue for holding your work back, you only need to go and look in the mirror to see the REAL source of the problem!

One other point, also...people who try and sell you a concept like DAWless on YouTube are...well, the word "sell" is a key. YT is about clicks, about hardscrabble survival, and about self-marketing. I see nothing in that list there about concepts such as "art" or "self-expression". They'll toss out the latest trendy whateverthehell, then a few months later they'll shift their entire working paradigm in order to sell the latest concept that all of their competition is jumping on, because that's how you survive YouTube. But it's not how you do art. Just ask Chris Gaines...or rather, Garth Brooks, when he tried to pull something similar at the end of the 1990s by altering his modus operandi, believing that being "edgy" like Trent Reznor would rake in even MORE lovely ca$h. The result, however, was a CATASTROPHIC miscue that imploded and almost took his "regular" career down with it! DAWless is only the current "flavor of the month" on YT right now, and by summer, it'll be something else, with little to no consequences to the YouTubers pushing it (although there should be, just like Garth). Don't be fooled.

some thoughts:

don't skimp on case or power, especially if you find modules to be expensive - the case protects them and the power gives them life!

if it was me I would next want a better modulation source (I like Maths as a first modulation source*) and some basic utilities next (links, kinks, shades or similar functionality in different modules - wmd/ssf toolbox for example goes a long way to covering a lot of basic utilities) and then possibly a stereo mixer - before adding any more sound sources or modifiers

-- JimHowell1970

Hi Jim,
I've looked over your first response as I've made some changes over the past week. Seeing similar builds has led me to make some adjustments. I would love to hear your thoughts on the changes:

Case: Considering power, size, reliability, etc., and cost, I'm probably going to go with a 6U 84HP Doepfer low cost case. I'll message the Case From Lake owner as well. As much as I want a custom pretty case with polished walnut wood, etc., the LC6 seems to be a steady workhorse and solid choice for a first case. Plus, the extra money in my pocket can go towards some utility modules.

Modulation: I've added Maths and Pam's for some modulation and extra clock sources.

Utility: Following your advice on utility, I've added MI's links, kinks, and shades. I've also seen these utility modules echoed in other posts here and on r/modular for builds that are similar to mine.

Stereo Mixer: Since I'll eventually have Beads and Arbhar, two stereo modules, any recommendation on a stereo mixer? Will I need something that has multiple stereo ins / 2 outs? It's hard to make sense of what would work with my build, or what's overkill for my sound sources. There's so many choices. Beyond that, it looks like I'll still have a little room to spare for additions down the road. Thanks in advance!

EDITED Mar 23rd 2021, 20:52

Problem is, 62 hp isn't very much space at all...and you're wanting to do some texturally-complex music. You've got two options that I can see here...

1) Jam it full of the right modules in under 4 hp sizes. This will make what you want fit...but the control ergonomics will be hellish.

or...

2) Follow your friend's lead and get rid of that tiny cab, then do a proper build.

One thing that you see all the time are new modular users who think that you can build the equivalent of Hans Zimmer's "Moog wall" in a 1-row cab. Aaaaaaaand...you can't, not to anyone's surprise. I mean...look at the screenshot above. Three often-used modules in place, and the 3U row is already more than half-filled, and the remaining space is where you need to put your entire audio generation and filtering chain, plus one or two more modulation sources. Doesn't look promising...

If you're going to try and build this into a proper modular build (which I do NOT recommend), you've already made a cardinal (and expensive) mistake in ordering these huge modules. As I've noted, you'll need to keep all of the module sizes at 4 hp or less in order to do a properly-implemented modular setup in this thing. As things stand right now, you won't get there.

What these small cabs are REALLY for are specialized builds, things I and others call "mission-specific" builds. For example, if you wanted to add a Maths to an ARP 2600, these little skiffs are ideal, as you can easily jam that plus several supporting modules into the restrictive space they provide. But an entire rig...while you DO see people (mostly on YouTube) doing this sort of thing, you have to keep in mind that they're there for the CLICKS...and not necessarily to be helpful. Especially not in these cases.

Your best bet here is to stick the Palette on eBay or Reverb, then add a bit of extra $$$ to what you get there and buy something like a Mantis. THAT will hold a proper module complement.

Try Analogue Haven, troux...they appear to have been dealing in Moffenzeef since they started putting modules out.

I had his work in mind but seems super hard to get ahold of @farkas. I'll have to give reverb a scour 🤔

Hi ModLifeCrisis,

You had a Telharmonic and you got rid of it? I know that "beast" is difficult to get it under control, if I remember correctly it's Mowse who can do beautiful things with the Telharmonic, keep an eye on his tracks and check out what can be done with the Telharmonic. I recently got a sound out of the Telharmonic that I love, I just need a bit more variation on it and a bit more time to finish it off into a track.

That field where Pippin is running through, that part of the video is lovely to watch, beautiful field and that effect of a rather small dog just jumping into the plants and out of the plants is just pure pleasure to watch and it looks like she enjoyed it as well?!

Well keep up the good work and I look forward in watching your next demo! Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Lugia,

Wow you got there a very nice "modulation, manipulation and logic" extension rack there, interesting idea!

I am kind of interested in that 4ms - QPLFO but I think I am missing a function but perhaps you can help me out? I am looking for an LFO that has a clock input but where the speed can still be regulated in somehow a synced way in correlation with the clock input. Any idea if this exists and if yes, could you please name a few modules that can do that?

I love LFOs but sometimes I wish they can be some how "linked into the rhythm" of the main voice or of the main rhythm.

There are EGs that might go a bit into that direction but I love the more complex LFOs and keep them in sync with the main clock (if it can be divided or multiplied of that clock would be excellent, but no I don't mean a clock multiplier or divider) however I do not mean the "usual" sync or reset input, I want it on a more "global" level to have it be in sync with the clock? Am I asking something impossible?

Stop, stop, stop! ;-) Did you mention there B.2600 as in Behringer - 2600 (that 'Arpy' thing)? Do you have that one already? How is it? Is it as good as most of us were hoping for, or at least not disappointing? I was thinking of waiting for the Blue Marvin version.

Thanks a lot for this brilliant rack! Kind regards, Garfield.

Thanks! Just made the change.

Quick tip: replace the image link you've shared with the URL of the rack itself and people can dig in, make copies, etc.

Last year, my friend introduced me to the world of modular and I have been completely enamored ever since. Until recently, I was just an observer, constantly watching YouTube videos trying to dream of what my rack would look like if I ever decided to take the plunge. And finally, about a month ago, I decided I was ready to start my journey. I purchased some modules I knew I wanted to get started and a case large enough for some future expansion (Rackbrute 6U). Modules I currently have are Marbles, Rings (shocking right?), a Quad VCA from Intellijel, and an Ooots from knob.farm.

I wanted to make a plan for my build, I understand my plan will probably change with every module purchased, but I at least wanted to have a general idea as to what a completed build would cost and hopefully start thinking towards what my next purchase would be. I'm taking it slow, learning modules as much as I can, but I'm just the kind of person who likes to think ahead. And ultimately, even though I'm wanting to plan out the whole build, it will be a very long time before I can even purchase all of these modules.

I put together a completed build plan and was looking for any advice on recommendations/changes I should make. I'm a complete noob so please be kind if this just looks like an incoherent mess.

Music I'm looking to make: Ambient electro
Some changes I've already considered: Beads for Clouds, Plonk instead of Plaits.

Last detail, I have quite a few guitar pedals that I would love to utilize with my future rack. Is the Strymon AA.1 a good choice for that?

EDITED Mar 22nd 2021, 23:06

can you make your actual rack public so we can see it

why would you not want maths? - a wonderful modulation source, in a rack of mainly granular and effects - I'd still want modulation sources and utilities no matter what I was doing with my rack

hi everyone!

i recently was gifted the intellijel 62hp palette, but i'm a beginner and would really appreciate some feedback/guidance/recommendations for modules+accessories that could help me create ambient music. even some tips for figuring how to get all these toys to talk to each other for a smooth recording process would be great. i'm also open to buying another case dedicated for hands-on controllers to actually play the music.

i've already pre-ordered the following modules:
- pamela's new workout
- zadar
- morphagene

i'd like to use the following:
- (intellijel 1u modules that came with the palette, but am open to suggestions)
- monome grid (when they open up pre-orders)
- monome norns shield
- arturia keystep
- teenage engineering op-z
- chase bliss audio blooper
- fairfield circuitry shallow water
- tascam porta one

modules i am interested in:
- monome anisble
- monome crow
- mannequins just friends
- mannequins mangrove
- make noise mimeophon
- hermod
- make noise qpas
- mutable instruments plaits
- ornament and crime
- intellijel plonk
- alm squid salmple

here's a link to my modulargrid setup for the time being:
https://cdn.modulargrid.net/img/racks/modulargrid_1509553.jpg

thanks so much for reading, i love the community and i can't wait to learn more! rip wallet also lol.

EDITED Mar 22nd 2021, 21:19

So, after getting my First Eurorack Rack Build in late 2019 and buying a lot of stuff (GAS hit me hard) I came to a Point
where I have to rethink. No I'm not quitting Eurorack :-)

I bought a lot of Stuff for traditional Synthesis. But over Time I realized that I am
constantly moving away from "Traditional" Synthesis to the World of Sound Manipulation, Granular Sampling and
Looping.

I already sold some Modules and some others will follow (looking at you Maths) So my Goal is to have a Rack to create my Samples to mangle with my Granular and Effects Stuff like Panharmonium and Data Bender. I love Reverbs, Delays, Distortion, Slowing things down and wash them out...

What I really was (I know it's dumb) obsessed with is to do everything in the Rack. I still don't want
use a DAW ever in my Music. So I broke with this an ordered the MN Strega. Hope it will arrive soon. It will be fun
to run Stuff into it. Why limit myself to this stupid Idea of everything having to be in the Rack? ;-)

About Granular Synthesis (my big Love). I have Morphagene, NebulaeV2, Arbhar, Clouds and Beads. TBH if I had to let go one today them it would be Beads. I still prefer Clouds.

But I always wanted a Display when working with Granular Synthesis and something more controllable and flexible.
And so I ordered my second out of the Rack Instrument. The Tasty Chips GR-1 ;-) I think the GR-1 has the Potential of becoming one of the Centerpoints of my Music. We will see.

In the meantime I can't wait to run this through my Rack.

EDITED Mar 22nd 2021, 21:08

Those of you who have the Mannequins W/ and are unaware of this just like I was: there's a totally new beta fw out there which transforms the module into something completely different: there are 3 different engines - W/Tape (most of the original tape functions are available), W/Syn (a polyphonic 2-op, 4-voice FM synth) and W/Del (vari-speed delay+looper with modulation).
I, for one like the new engines a lot better than the original (and very obscure) tape engine, though I have yet to figure W/Tape out as I couldn't get it work (I may have a corrupted micro SD card or do something wrong...). However, both W/Syn and W/Del are amazing and seem to work as described. The delay is very lo-fi and sounds crazier, in a very good way, than any delay I've worked with before. The FM-synth is also pretty wild and harsh, noisy and metallic, I like it a lot. Now W/, so far used intermittently, has become so much more than it originally was.

Here's where you'll find the fw and all the info:

https://llllllll.co/t/mannequins-w-2-beta-testing/34091

Some new stuff:

Hey All,

Thanks for the feedback!

is there a decent joystick that dont cost like 2-300 euro?
-- Broken-Form

Yep: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/befaco-joystick 35mm depth, too, so it'll fit nicely in a shallow rack.

Another controller I'd suggest, but which isn't cheap, would be the Verbos MiniHorse. Basically, it's a massive update of the original Buchla 100 touchplates, but with way more functionality already set up in the module. You get 12 plates, on which you have pressure, position on plate, gate, an assignable variable CV as well as fixed CV values. The ability to make full use of the pressure and position are super-useful...just use the fixed CV for your pitch, then assign the pressure to VCA level and position to VCF cutoff, and you can play pitch, dynamic, AND timbral parameters with each touch.

mine either go in a ... in a heap by the modular...

-- JimHowell1970

Same here. It doesn't look pretty, it may not be smart but it works for me.

mine either go in a cardboard box or on the floor in a heap by the modular (note my modular is also on the floor not a desk - due to position of TV - for video synthesis)

as for the optimum number of cables - to start with count the number of sockets in your modules and divide by 2... get a selection of lengths - up to a bit bigger than you think you need so there's some slack when patching

as you get more modules the ratio of cables to sockets will reduce - you probably won't patch every socket of every module every time you patch

I tend to buy cables in batches - 15 to 20 at a time - when I notice I am getting low at the end of a big patch (especially if I am planning on getting more modules soon) and possibly a couple of stackcables when I buy a module - especially if i need to add a few € to get free shipping

currently I'm really liking PolarNoise for 90-150cm braided cables and befaco for some very long cables (3m) - I also like the Black Market Modular cables

Hi Garfield, thanks. I'm glad you like the introductions. I'm never sure whether to include them so it is good to have some feedback. The churchy drone is from Plaits. I love the chord setting, and find it easier to manage than the Telharmonic, which I had for a while. All the rest comes from Animoog, which I've 'discovered' and really love. I'm thinking it's going to have a permanent place in my tiny modular setup. I just need to find a way to get it to keep still!

And yes, that's Pippin. We had her for a short while and the field in the film is where we used to take her for walks most days. The final clip, where she is running through the white wild garlic, was her last ever walk! To be honest, I wasn't really keen on having a dog but once we got her she got under my skin. Still miss her, especially when we go for a walk...

Thanks again for listening from your Listening Chair :)

regarding joysticks,which are worth checking out?it needs to fit in my portable case,so think the doepfer is a no go

is there a decent joystick that dont cost like 2-300 euro?

Really Lush and beautiful Drones you made there! I ike it

Hi Mowse,

Oh wow, thanks for that link, I am now listening at it. Okay, now I understand what you mean :-) Great music indeed!

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi ModLifeCrisis,

Nice video, even if you didn't manage to match it with the performance ;-) I like the introductions of your videos, nice and informative!

The sound is pretty special, isn't it? Kind of church-organ in b-minor? ;-) And then that how to call it... moaning sound around 9:00 minutes? Beautifully done!

At around 11:00 and the dog at the staircase, is that the same dog? Yours? It looks funny and cute! Is that Pippin? Sorry that you lost him/her :-(

This is how a weekend should end, watching one of your interesting (partly funny too) videos! Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Mowse,

Thank you very much for sharing this jam, great! The sound around 03:20, wow, I love that :-)

Great video and it's nice to see you at work, now we know how you do it! ;-) You got a nice setup, lovely to look at it

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Pavel,

If you want good patch cables, have a look at the Cordial CPI series, here is just one example:

https://www.thomann.de/intl/cordial_cpi_06_zz.htm?sid=841d56e66cd0fc9ee7568c2d778651b8&ref=intl&shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZGUiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6MiwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1

The do exist in different lengths.

In my opinion they are a bit (too) expensive, so I started to make cables myself but if you look for (real) good cables you might want to consider those. Kind regards, Garfield Modular.

Hi Wishbonebrewery,

Wow, this is great fun! You draw my attention and I landed in my listening chair with this track (the first one). You got some of the percussions nicely positioned in the stereo-field, really nice!

The bass has a real nice punch to it, love it!

Thank you very much for sharing and kind regards, Garfield.

A few ideas:

-- I got 2x tackle boxes to store / organize my cables in. In practice these are okay not great for modular cords, because the inner box divisions are somewhat small and can't be changed. I might try getting some bigger tackle boxes (or at least ones with bigger compartments) and repurpose the ones I have. The ones I have which work okay are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R5SLQCW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

-- if I wanted a more permanent cable setup (e.g. one I don't mind staying out in view) I would probably get one of these, which goes on top of a mic stand: https://patchwerks.com/collections/cable-hangers/products/eurodesk-z-hex-01-eurorack-1-8-inch-cable-hanger. Also there is a wall / deskmount option: https://www.eurodesk-z.com/products/klauz1e-wall-mountable-1-8-inch-eurorack-cable-hanger

-- for cables, I like the Ad Infinitum cables, which you can get direct or via retailers (may as well go direct, IMO): http://adinfinitummusic.com/. I like those because i) they seem to have a good reputation for build quality and my experience is good with them on quality ii) they have enough colors and sizes for me (I want all black in a number of sizes). Regarding # of cables I would say i) consider the longest cable length you would need given your setup ii) get a few lengths from smallest usable to medium to longest usable iii) get at least 5x of each length. For me, I got 15x cables in 6,12,18,24 &36 and that's about all I need for now. IMO for $50-70 you should be able to get a good set of cables which will cover a wide range of your immediate patching needs.

Good luck!

Stellardrone

Just a little weekend streaming fun with hacker/nerd/synth friends.

And a remix!

*Additions of more variation on the patterns from the TR-09 and a Bass note from the MakeNoise STO.

Been tinkering with this for a little bit. No, it's not a full synth; this is intended as an "expander" for my Digisound/B.2600/AE setup (with the AE being accessed by this via a Soundmachines Nanobridge) plus an interface for pedals and a translator for the MS-20 minis.

I opted for a Palette 104 here, as this allows for the utility row and tile row, which makes this work much better than if I'd done it as a tile-less cab build. The tile row offers two pairs of attenuverters which also function as utility mixers, four extra VCAs, Intellijel's MultiFX, and two of their Pedal I/Os which connect to pedals via the 1/4" jacks on the Palette's utility strip.

The module row has a KonstantLabs PWRchekr, 4ms QPLFO, Maths, and a Quadrax/Qx for modulation sources, with the MISO added for modulation transforms. Then the logic section has a Dovemans dual window comparator to pick gates off of modulation signals, an EMW Logic/Divider, a Bastl Kompas for probabilistic gate generation, a Ladik Derivator to pick gates off of CV direction changes, and a Mystic ANA for CV arithmetics. Last module is a G-Storm KVP for translating normal CVs and gates to the Korg MS-20 format (Hz/V CVs and inverse trigger/gates).

Not bad, I think...this hits all of the necessary bases to be a proper modulation expander, plus it offers logic and some stochastic functions for "complicating up" clock and/or gate/trigger behavior, and the FX interfacing. Should be a great fit...

The M32 doesn't belong in there, either. Consider how much space it takes up in the rack, and how much that space actually costs...then add it to what you paid for it. Put it back in its case as well and get a multi-tier bracket for the Moog stuff...that looks cooler, anyway.

As for the rest of the build...uhhh...OK, it's a bit apparent that you're OVERreliant on the Moogs for things such as VCAs, attenuverters/mixers, and so on. Plus, there's a lot of little 2 and 3 hp modules all over the place in between the "sexy" modules (and we'll get at that in a bit), sort of like shower-grout mold. Or something about as useful as that, because if you'd just return the 120 hp that the Moogs are stealing, you'd have room for PROPER versions of those modules, such as mixers where you can actually control your source levels (kindasorta important). And the layout is just...well, it's haphazard, very random, with no discernable order to the modules with respect to signal flow, function grouping, etc.

There's some decent modules in here...but it doesn't seem like there's any overall plan for this. Even with the Moogs in place, the remainder of the modules just don't seem to make a lot of sense. Then there's the plan to toss the Audio Damage delay...which I think is just plain nuts. For one thing, it's a pretty good dub-style delay...and if you're doing repetitive ambient work (ie: Berlin school type stuff), you NEED delays such as that to increase your sequencing density and to "canonically" shift parts of one line against each other...delay-line hocketing, basically. Plus, it has an INSERT in its feedback loop...which has massive abuse potential! Yes, I see the Chronoblob up above, and yes, it's a delay with that same sort of insert...and actually, it and the DubJr are some of the very few affordable and decently-sized delays that offer this. It's also discontinued...so if you toss it and then realize that that WAS a mistake, good luck finding another one!

"Additions" aren't the problem here. This is a build that's got some real systemic problems, in my opinion. You've got a cab here that's got the size necessary to house a KILLER module complement, but the whole thing's hamstrung by the Moogs. They're robbing over a third of your cab space which you clearly need for actual modules...as you're discovering. This would be MUCH better off if you pulled those and then worked at making a cohesive modular synthesizer build out of the odds and ends that currently occupy the rack. You can even keep some space open (which I'd suggest...3 x 104 SHOULD offer plenty of expansion room) to build beyond that. Then start regrouping modules, aiming for a layout that's way more cohesive that way. Once you do that, it should be considerably more apparent where the shortcomings are.

Smooth Random from the 2hp RND and two speeds of LFO from Divkid Instruo Ochd going into the Ai Synthesis Matrix Mixer​ and splitting different amounts off around the system. This is mainly for tweaking the Danny Sound​ Timbre​ which I'm really enjoying, tone is controlled simply by the 2hp Tune being plugged into the Befaco EvenVCO and one of the blended outputs from the Matrix mixer is sort of fluttering the Bias knob on the 2hp Tune. There is also some non-Timbre sound split off from the Even VCO that goes through the Omsonic FLF filter. Effects are Monsoon Clouds just for Reverb on the Timbre feed then 2hp Verb on the filter output.
Percussion from Roboux LL8 / DNi Pro DOT, ADDAC103, Patching Panda Hatz and claps and snares from Roland TR09.

Cheers for listening :)

Right now, the go-to mixer I'm pointing people at when they need as much CV control as possible in the most convenient space would be Toppobrillo's Stereomix2. Not only does this give you CV over level, pan and AUX sends, you also have mutes on your inputs and you get a "strip to cue" function that sends your audio to the headphone jack from a selected input strip...which is INVALUABLE for live work, tuning purposes, and a bunch of other things. You could even use it as a second (manual) AUX. Plus, this is their rev.2 version, which means it's already debugged and tweaked for optimal performance. It's sort of like the Mixology...on 'roids!
-- Lugia

thanks!

Hi there!

I put my MOOG DFAM back into its own case due to SRSR (Sudden Rack Space Restrictions) after purchasing QU-BIT DATA BENDER and SQUARP RAMPLE. I now have some 22-28 HP left in row 2 of my 3x 104 Moog 3-Tier Stand rack (depending on my sale of the AUDIO DAMAGE DUB JR MK II).

Any advise on what might be a good addition?

My Rack is accompanied by
- a ROLAND TR6s Drum Machine and the MOOG DFAM, so there is no need for additional Drum modules.
- an ERIKA DB-01 Bassline synth
- a ROLAND JU06a Poly-Synth
- a Fender Rhodes `73 MK II staging all the gear mentioned above

Thanks!

EDITED Mar 21st 2021, 19:56

Thanks for the matrix mixer tip!! I need one!!
Also the kinks and LPG are really what I need!!
So neutron will leave the case..
Thx for your input!!

I've been having fun with Morphagene again, this time teaming it up with the Animoog app, along with Maths and an SQ-1. My two discoveries for the week are: 1) I can modulate the Morphagene with just the moisture in my fingers and 2) what an amazing app the Animoog is. Thanks for watching. :)

EDITED Mar 21st 2021, 06:06

Right now, the go-to mixer I'm pointing people at when they need as much CV control as possible in the most convenient space would be Toppobrillo's Stereomix2. Not only does this give you CV over level, pan and AUX sends, you also have mutes on your inputs and you get a "strip to cue" function that sends your audio to the headphone jack from a selected input strip...which is INVALUABLE for live work, tuning purposes, and a bunch of other things. You could even use it as a second (manual) AUX. Plus, this is their rev.2 version, which means it's already debugged and tweaked for optimal performance. It's sort of like the Mixology...on 'roids!

i also do Ambient,for LPGs i got recommended these
https://www.siammodular.com/takaab-2lpg-v2-dual-passive-low-pass-gate-eurorack-synthesizer-module

havent recieved them yet,but they are underway.

for sample and hold i usea mutable Instruments kinks great little utility(so is links)

1 thing i wouldalso recommend is a matrix mixer,i use this one
https://aisynthesis.com/product/ai008-eurorack-matrix-mixer/

Hmmmm...well, echoing Jim here, take the Neutron OUT of the cab. It already has its own cab and power, so when you take something that has those and put it into another case with power, you'll need to factor in the price of the space/power you're now taking up in your main cab. Seems convenient to do, but in the end it's majorly wasteful of your Eurorack case space and power...especially at 80 hp. Remember: treat your more expensive Eurorack case space as a commodity...because, at the cost of Eurorack cabs AND the necessity for that space for UNhoused modules, that space should ONLY be for devices that require it. The Neutron doesn't.

There's some other things I could suggest, but with that one synth taking up 80 hp that it shouldn't, it's hard to determine what the ACTUAL layout of this (and additional modules) should be.

Yep...if you've got tools that work, then work with 'em! The other point to going with outboard effects is that you save hp in your build...and that means more potential sound generation capabilities. Grab a small portable rack case, jam the outboard gear and patchbay in there, and there you go...AND it's still relatively portable, so if you wanted to gig with the setup, that wouldn't be much of a hassle.

Hi Dadodetres,

Thanks a lot for the information on how your setup works, nice & interesting to read.

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Dadodetres,

Wow, one long nice track + video! Nice goody for the weekend :-) I love that sound you make with the harmonica, subtle yet beautifully done! What kind of microphone or device you use to receive an electronic input from the harmonica towards a mixer?

Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield Modular.
-- GarfieldModular

Garfield! thanks!

For the Harmonica I use a "geneic overseas" elektret microphone. No brand, masivley made. Cost me $15. Its elektret so its really sensitive and Full range. Uses a AA alkaline battery as its pre-amp. Sounds really clear and its very comfortable to hold in the hand and play the harmonica at the same time, way better than when I used dynamic microhones. The Battery is attached to the other end of the system.

The harmonica is plugged to a mini system which consist of VFE Klein bottle. In one channel there is a TC Electronic Flashback, in 100% wet, 7 seconds digital delay. In another channel there is a Strymon Blue Sky reverb. With each indivual channel´s "send" I choss if I want to "solo"/play notes separetely when I send it just to the reverb. Or send it also to the Flashback and "add it" to the feedback of the Delay creating a Drone. If the Fedback of the delay is at 100% the drone just adds and adds and never fades out. If i lower the Feedback then it strats to fade away. This technique is an advace way of "Frippertronics".

Also, there is another way of doing a similar thing without the Klein Bottle and with comercially available gear, since the Klein Bottle its Ultra Rare, if anyone is interesieted I could also share the information, just ask.

EDITED Mar 21st 2021, 01:29

Hi Dadodetres,

I replied already to your jam in the "Modules" section of this Forum. Perhaps a good idea to keep all your jams and videos in this "You" section and not duplicating it elsewhere. See below for my reaction in the "Modules" section.

Kind regards, Garfield.

Hi Dadodetres,

Wow, one long nice track + video! Nice goody for the weekend :-) I love that sound you make with the harmonica, subtle yet beautifully done! What kind of microphone or device you use to receive an electronic input from the harmonica towards a mixer?

Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield Modular.

Ah, OK. I'm not that familiar with the Bitbox or the Robaux, but they look fairly powerful.
For ambient sounds, I would probably be looking at adding more random modulation like a Triple Sloths and a sample and hold, or something similar. Marbles may be another good addition, but Bloom might achieve some of the same things as Marbles. A way to mix CV signals, like the Happy Nerding 3xMIA, would probably be a fun addition.
I also like low pass gates a lot for plucky percussive sounds. They can be fairly inexpensive and can act sort of like a filtered VCA. A nice wavfeolder could give you a new range of tones too.
I also live in a place where there aren't many people interested in synths. Not even my friends... haha.
Welcome to MG! Have fun and good luck.

Hi Dadodetres,

Wow, one long nice track + video! Nice goody for the weekend :-) I love that sound you make with the harmonica, subtle yet beautifully done! What kind of microphone or device you use to receive an electronic input from the harmonica towards a mixer?

Thank you very much for sharing this and kind regards, Garfield Modular.