im better than you, in my fantasy world, @zacksname .

get a life.

peace ✌️


@zacksname i just told you the modules i would get first. i cannot afford them. i just want to post ideas for rack configurations on here as creative stimulation. get a life.

peace ✌️


id want it all at once. if i could only get less at a time, then i would get this all at once:

ModularGrid Rack

i just want that perfect improv toy and im not there yet is all, why do you keep asking?

peace ✌️


yes. i would like to have this one, even though the design is not perfect and the clocky is not actually really doing anything:

ModularGrid Rack

also, just to include this, too, here is the $30 yoyo:

https://a.co/d/jk2m3Ki

peace ✌️


yes. im all set up with "arrangements" on a daily, very limited budget, and i spent $30 of my own money on a yoyo from amazon. in fact, that $30 one is almost my fav right now.

why? what of it?

i "cant" save up on my daily spending for a $6,000 eurorack case, etc. so, why ask? etc.

peace ✌️


im just saying. you can get a full 100% workable yoyo for $30. no comparison.

basically.

etc.

peace ✌️


i spent $120 on a yoyo. (it was a gift actually.) a yoyo made of solid titanium can be $500. the $120 was a yoyofriends tachyon, but mostly i use another $80 yoyofriends, a $30 almost no brand amazon thing that plays above its price, and a few cheaper plastic ones so i dont forget how to play on the cheaper ones.

i could ask some person on here; "you spend $36,000 on eurorack modules?" etcetera. ... ...

yoyo is super rewarding. more people should get into it. etcetera. etcetera. ...

peace ✌️


i do. notice how my designs kept making more and more sense after every time i came back over every couple of months, but i have very specific constraints im trying to work inside of, and so, due to issues with things like module availability, yes, my designs could use some improvement.

i still think if this site was a little different then the community here can grow more.

also a whole yoyo is only ever like $200 tops.

peace ✌️


yeah. i can do two combos i invented and am just now starting to work on advanced tricks.

i want to share a direct quote:

"ModularGrid uses so-called cookies to ensure it's so-called functionality. We also use dubious tracking scripts. Find out more in the Privacy Policy. We use cookies and wanna let you know.'

would you trust a website like that?

peace ✌️✌️✌️


i took up unresponsive yoyo, late, maybe, idk, like 5 years ago? and, im being plenty patient with it, not even giving it my full undivided attention, and still making good progress. i do not believe my disposition is as messed up as you think it is. etcetera.

peace ✌️


i dont see why thats important and is almost a little bit too personally identifiable, but: ...

"almost 40".

why do you even want to know?

peace ✌️


cool. im not an admin. im not a dev. im not a writer on modular synthesis. but i have this whole vision for a modulargrid 2.0 with friendly reminders and ai chat assistance,

because, i care about the future of modular synthesis, because, in my fantasy world i have an enormous eurorack 'toy' that i like to play with, and i want more toys, etcetera.

i dont hate this site. i just wish i was seeing more valuable community interactions, etc. because that would grow this hobby, and im thinking maybe a lil ml could seed this. etc.

peace ✌️


nu uh, @zacksname my cult disagrees with you. ... ... i think people just need this site to provide them a gentle reminder about how to think about using this very site. etcetera.


it would be for someone who started looking into eurorack modules for some reason then finds this website and becomes interested in maybe putting together their own case but is overwhelmed with the possibilities that the plethora of options that the design page here provides and it would be designed to catch them just before they give up or accidently purchase something that ends up not suiting them or even just post something on here that is un-feedback-able and to "guide" them toward making choices with good outcomes.

i know the author claims that that book was not actually on the topic of zen, but to be honest i always find reading over it again to be a zen experience, in a personal way, etc.

etc.

peace ✌️


read zen an the art of motorcycle maintenance.

it goes into why its important to figure out why you want to do things before you do them, which is more what i wanted my hypothetical guide for here to cover.

(claude didnt generate exactly what i wanted. my own version might be 5x longer and might include little anecdotes about what to avoid and things that really work.)

peace ✌️


thanks. maybe ill unbox my po-33 k.o., record some samples of things i have on the ready, throw something together in 2 seconds, upload it to youtube, and post it here, just to contribute. (havent decided.)

peace ✌️


i disagree that you must have a vca as its own module to be honest. that modwiggler thread does not go into why you might want to get into modular in the first place or the aesthetics of module selection or how to design something that actually meets your real creative expressive potential needs.

have you read zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance @Dub007 ? that is the book i was trying to reference. if you have not, you might not grok what i have in mind, etc. ...

peace ✌️


im not a child and zacksname is not my teacher. i am not required to 100% love criticism, especially when its not moving me toward my goals. i know how synths work.

peace ✌️


zacksname, i have just one thing to say:

https://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/taking-criticism/


  1. interact with the community.

  2. share ideas.

  3. work toward a module case configuration that 100% suits my concept of how i want to approach eurorack modular from an improv perspective i might pull the trigger on, later.

.

you saw my latest 80hp rack design. ... ... the problem isnt that i dont know how to design a budget case for myself. the problem is that i have very specific taste and "sensibilities".

.

what i really wanted was just more back and forth dialogue about the philosophy of all of eurorack, not just nitpicking about a specific module choices that are a bit non-standard.

.

like, im looking to flex my creativity, because its a muscle i need to work and the po-33 k.o. i have is just not a "heavy" enough weight to feel worth my time right now, and im bored.

.

i shouldnt have to justify why i am looking for feedback on ideas as just ideas, i.m.h.o.

peace ✌️


hey zacksname. if picking up new modules is 100% not a problem for you, then why dont you pick up a strange-r bighat, figure out a patch you can make that has drums covered, and play around with my 'concept' of improvising key changes and, things of that nature, as part of a live performance semi random flow zone you can try to get into, and then get back to me if there really is no fruit to be picked in my "totally self contained band in a box instrument" idea.

its not impossible for me to pick up modules. i just need the perfect concept before i do so.

i dont mind feedback if its constructive, etc.

peace ✌️


so, youd prefer i just unbox my po-33 k.o. and only talk about that, ever? nah. id rather dream big. im an ideas guy. rick rubin didnt need to buy his own guitar to produce system of a down. what if one of my ideas turns into a new module that helps the whole entire community? designing rack configurations is fun to me. i dont want to limit my creativity to only todays budget.

peace ✌️


ive messed around with pd (pure data) and own a po-33 k.o. that im not even motivated to unbox. i just 'yearn' for that perfect improv canvas that totally matches my own aesthetic sensibilities, and the thing is, before i can have that, i barely have any interest in picking up modules or messing with other softwares, just to explain myself.

theres like this whole studio i have for myself, in my head, and im just not that interested in trying to build anyone elses studio in reality. 'i know what im doing'.

i just came on here to mess with design.

peace ✌️

(edit)

just installed hexen, just to check it out, and it actually seems pretty cool, but i have enough trouble trying to navigate websites and type out messages on this android phone, and trying to operate a full modular synth from the same interface is just way too much total overwhelm for me, but thanks.

((peace ✌️))


im just a dude with too much free time on an android phone. i do want to get into modular synthesis, but my life is all messed up right now. i just want to be taken seriously that im trying to move the community forward and not be given a hard time about having ideas that are different.

peace ✌️


thanks. had not heard of 'patch & tweak'. added to my wishlist.

✌️


fyi, the admins of this site, i just got claude 3.7 sonnet to generate a draft of this document, if yall want to work on it further and put it on a special page, etc. as follows:

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...

Zen and the Art of Eurorack Modular Case Construction

There is an undeniable poetry in the hum of electronics, in the deliberate patching of cables, and in the slow dance of knobs being turned toward sonic revelation. The path of modular synthesis is not merely about creating sound—it is about creating yourself.

I remember my first case: a simple wooden box with aluminum rails, power supply hanging precariously from the back. I had no idea what I was doing. In truth, none of us do at first.

The Way of Modular Thinking

Modular synthesis is not merely a hobby; it is a philosophy. We seek not to play an instrument but to create one—to build a personal extension of our musical consciousness. The instrument becomes both map and territory, journey and destination.

When you decide to build a Eurorack case, you are making a commitment to a relationship that will evolve over years. Like any worthwhile relationship, it requires patience, understanding, and forgiveness—especially forgiveness.

Understanding the Fundamental Voices

Before we discuss construction, we must understand what we are constructing. These are the voices that will speak through your fingers:

Oscillator (VCO): The primary voice generator. It creates waveforms—sine, triangle, sawtooth, square, pulse—each with its own tonal character. This is where sound begins its journey.

Filter (VCF): The sculptor. It removes or emphasizes certain frequencies, carving the raw waveform into more complex shapes. Lowpass allows lower frequencies to pass while cutting higher ones. Highpass does the opposite. Bandpass allows only a band of frequencies through. Notch cuts a specific frequency band.

Amplifier (VCA): The gatekeeper. It controls the volume of your signal, allowing sounds to swell and fade. Without it, all sounds would be at constant volume—a crude existence indeed.

Envelope Generator (EG/ADSR): The shaper of time. Attack determines how quickly a sound rises to full volume. Decay sets how quickly it falls to the sustain level. Sustain is the volume held while a key is pressed. Release sets how quickly the sound fades after release.

Low Frequency Oscillator (LFO): The animator. It creates cycling control signals too slow to be heard as pitch, used to modulate other parameters over time—creating vibrato, tremolo, or rhythmic pulsing.

Sequencer: The storyteller. It sends a series of predetermined voltages to other modules, creating repeating patterns of notes or parameter changes.

Noise Generator: The whisperer of chaos. It creates unpredictable signals across the frequency spectrum—white noise contains all frequencies at equal energy; pink noise emphasizes lower frequencies.

Sample & Hold: The randomizer. It takes an input signal and freezes its value until triggered again, often creating stepped random patterns when fed noise.

Attenuator/Attenuverter: The diplomat. It reduces the strength of signals (attenuation) or can also invert them (attenuversion), allowing for subtlety in modulation.

Mixer: The unifier. It combines multiple signals into one output, allowing layered sounds to travel together.

Clock: The heartbeat. It generates regular timing pulses that synchronize various modules in rhythmic harmony.

The Five Common Patch Structures

1. The Classic Monophonic Voice

VCO → VCF → VCA
       ↑      ↑
       |      |
       └ EG1  └ EG2

The fundamental patch. An oscillator's waveform passes through a filter, then an amplifier. One envelope controls the filter's cutoff frequency, opening and closing it over time. Another envelope controls the amplifier, shaping the volume contour. A keyboard or sequencer typically controls the oscillator's pitch.

2. The Self-Generating Ambient System

Noise → S&H → Quantizer → VCO → VCF → VCA → Reverb
  ↑      ↑                  ↑     ↑      ↑
  |      |                  |     |      |
  └ LFO1 └ Clock → Divider → LFO2 └ LFO3 └ EG

Here, randomness becomes structure. Noise fed into a Sample & Hold creates random voltages that are quantized to musical scales. These control an oscillator's pitch while LFOs modulate timbre and spatial characteristics. A clock keeps everything in loose synchronization, creating evolving ambient textures that can run without human intervention.

3. The Rhythmic Percussion Network

Clock → Sequential Switch
  ↓         ↓
Triggers → Envelope Generators → VCAs → Noise/Oscillators → Filters → Mixer
  ↓                                                                    ↓
LFOs → Modulation Destinations                                       Output

A clock drives a sequential switch that distributes triggers to different envelope generators. These shape noise or oscillators through VCAs to create various percussive elements. LFOs modulate parameters for variation, and everything mixes together for complex rhythmic patterns.

4. The Dual Oscillator Complex Voice

VCO1 → Wavefolder → Mixer → VCF → VCA → Output
VCO2 → Ring Mod   →   ↑      ↑     ↑
  ↑                          |     |
  └── LFO ──────────────────┘     |
  └── EG ───────────────────────┘

Two oscillators create rich harmonic content, one through wavefolding (creating harmonics through folding a waveform back on itself), the other through ring modulation (multiplying signals to create sum and difference frequencies). These are mixed, filtered, and amplified together, with modulation creating movement and expression.

5. The West Coast Exploration

Complex Oscillator → Waveshaper → Low Pass Gate → Output
       ↑                  ↑            ↑
       |                  |            |
Function Generator → Attenuverters → Pressure Points

Inspired by Buchla's approach, this patch uses complex oscillators with built-in wavefolding and modulation, further shaped by waveshapers. Instead of a filter and VCA, a Low Pass Gate combines both functions, responding to pressure control for expressive playing. Function generators create complex envelope shapes beyond the standard ADSR.

Common Mistakes in the Path of Modular

In Module Selection

  1. The Allure of Complexity: Beginners often choose modules with the most knobs, jacks, and functions, but simplicity often leads to greater mastery. Start with fundamental modules that do one thing well.

  2. Neglecting Utilities: Mixing, attenuation, and signal routing are not glamorous but are essential. Without them, your beautiful voices have nowhere to go.

  3. Insufficient Modulation Sources: A system with many sound sources but few modulation sources is like a body without a nervous system. LFOs, envelopes, and random sources bring life to static sounds.

  4. Improper Sizing: Choose modules that fit your case dimensions. HP (horizontal pitch) is precious—don't waste it with poor planning.

  5. Forgetting Playability: We become so entranced with the idea of possibilities that we forget to make something playable. Include modules that respond to human touch and expression.

In Patching

  1. Gain Staging Carelessness: Too much gain leads to distortion; too little disappears into noise. Pay attention to signal levels throughout your patch.

  2. Modulation Extremes: Subtle modulation often creates more musical results than extreme settings. Learn to appreciate gentleness.

  3. Ignoring Signal Flow: Understanding the path of voltage is crucial. Each cable tells a story—know where it begins and ends.

  4. Cable Clutter: Organization leads to clarity of thought. Use different cable lengths and colors to maintain order in complexity.

  5. The Single Patch Syndrome: Many never explore beyond their first successful patch. Remember that modular systems are about exploration—change is the only constant.

In Assembly

  1. Power Supply Underestimation: The heart of your system deserves respect. Never skimp on power quality or capacity.

  2. Insufficient Cooling: Electronics generate heat. Without proper ventilation, modules can fail prematurely.

  3. Poor Grounding: Ground loops cause noise and can destroy modules. Ensure proper power distribution and grounding.

  4. Overlooking Ergonomics: Frequently used modules should be easily accessible. Place them where your hands naturally fall.

  5. Ignoring Depth Requirements: Some modules extend far behind the panel. Research physical dimensions before purchasing.

The True Motivations of the Modular Path

Why do we do this to ourselves? Why spend thousands on a system that could be replicated in software for a fraction of the cost? This question has haunted me through countless late nights of patching.

The truth is complex and deeply personal:

Tangibility in a Digital Age: We crave physical interaction with our tools. Turning a knob with your fingers connects you to sound creation in a way clicking a mouse never can.

The Promise of Discovery: Every patch contains the possibility of sounds you've never heard before—sounds that might never have existed until you connected those particular cables.

The Beauty of Limitations: Paradoxically, working within constraints often leads to greater creativity than having infinite options. The specific character of your modules shapes your musical voice.

The Meditative Process: Patching becomes a form of meditation—a focused attention on the present moment, on cause and effect, on the relationships between elements.

The Community: Modular synthesis connects you to others on similar journeys. We share patches, modules, and stories. We gather at synthesizer meet-ups to celebrate our shared obsession.

The Unfinished Symphony: A modular system is never complete. It evolves as you evolve. This perpetual becoming is perhaps its greatest gift.

Final Reflections

After years of building, patching, selling, regretting, and rebuilding, I've come to see my Eurorack case as a mirror reflecting my musical consciousness. Its strengths and weaknesses are mine. Its voice is my voice.

The path of modular synthesis teaches patience. It teaches acceptance of imperfection. It teaches that the journey itself is the destination.

When you build your case, remember that you are not merely assembling a musical instrument. You are creating a space for exploration, for failure, for discovery, and ultimately, for expression.

Approach this path with an open heart and steady hands. Listen more than you play. Question more than you conclude. And remember that the most profound sounds often emerge not from complexity, but from deep understanding of simplicity.

May your patches surprise you, and may your case always have room for one more module.


Thread: shoutouts.

i have been 'stating that i feel' that this website should have a more community feel, so, why dont i just take 2 seconds to introduce myself, by sharing some links to stuff that im 'into', to better justify and make clearer the kind of eurorack case design that speaks to me, in the form of some 'shoutouts'.

...

shoutouts to some things i like:

takazudo:

woke-ass messiah:

https://wokeass.bandcamp.com/music

muezig:

@muezig" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/@muezig

renku corporation:

stegosaurus trap:

https://stegosaurustrap.bandcamp.com/album/hiding-on-the-moon

ulrich schnauss:

the smile:

and, ganja white night:

...

there, i think you all just got to know me just a little bit better.

.

(i stand by that sharing my ideas on here are contributions.)

.

peace ✌️


i really feel like, there is, or should be, a 'smooth' onboarding into modular, that just doesnt exist in any of the resources i have been able to locate or come across, etc.

does anyone in the community want to try to put together a document called "zen and the art of eurorack modular synthesis case construction"? (tbh seeing little community)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry into Values https://a.co/d/hdE7CfH

i. am. helping. etcetera.

peace ✌️


your link is not properly formatted, so i cannot see what you are talking about.

but, think you should fill it with a hector by poly effects, though, because everyone needs one of those, right?

peace ✌️


what if i actually really do think that that is a dope design? "zacksname" cant read my mind, right?

(mayhaps im just misunderstood.)

peace ✌️

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...

the point wasnt to get mean. the point was to try and figure out how this website forum could actually better deliver real feedback, tips, and suggestions to users, while adding an additional sense of community as well.

is there anything wrong with someone who would want that case as their primary rig?

maybe, it is all a matter of taste.

what say you, zacksname?

((peace ✌️))


i cant really seem to get any positive feedback from you on any of my "designs", so, ...

im curious, is this more your kind of thing?

(design for designs sake.)

ModularGrid Rack

peace ✌️


ai wouldnt be much help. it has not been trained on specific dialogue addressing all the nuance of every single module in all the ways it might come up. i was using ai earlier to generate logic to justify my 'concept', not in design, and im having trouble with every ai app, anyway. i still think if it was trained properly that ai could be a huge feature for this website to help onboard total noobs.

etc.

(edit)

maybe, i was trolling a little bit when i first came on here about rack space getting out of hand, and maybe, i do not search up videos on every feature of every module before i post racks for feedback, but, i am good at design, and excell at abstract concepts, and i just didnt appreciate the impression that my 'concepts' werent being appreciated, not that there werent any possible issues with any of the designs i posted at all. i didnt mean to get personal, zack. im here to 'modwiggle'.

((peace ✌️))


i mean, you could use the full engine of the plonk to essentially design 8 drum samples per preset just by menu diving through settings on the unit without any sd card.

here, how about this, i give you: 'full band in 80hp':

ModularGrid Rack

does that make clearer about how i want each module to contribute maximal flow to contribute to an emergent whole by looking? i think studying modules should be enough.

i miss a few details i sometimes wish yall were better at catching, but i find it possible to understand a given module just through youtube. someone should do a guide. ... ...

peace ✌️

(edit)

i challenge any reader who disagrees that i designed a full band in 80hp to post here their own 80hp design and justify why my concept of jazz improv flow was flawed.


sine wave lfo, with a sin wave sub lfo frequency modulating the first with offset and amplitude, in a stereo configuration, where you can create sub binaural beats between two similar frequency modulated sine wave lfo signals as a kind of 'spread'.

call it, the:

'bi-wompus, by fourier headspace',,

peace ✌️


i think we just have different aesthetics zack

what i see, is, a mandala i wish did more in a smaller footprint that got rid of the cv outs, a squid sample i wish wasnt even a sampler but instead used the plonk engine somehow to generate a kit from pure menus and also took up less real estate, and a bunch of other modules to consider, that arent even utilities and, also, not even the ones you mentioned.

theres like a flow characteristic im trying to capture, and the whole 100hp gimmick holds significance for me, too, and i just dont feel that any of your module suggestions have been getting me closer to 'my ideal'. ...

honestly, it feels to me like you should be trying better to understand "the flow" im trying to create before you tell me to add more vcas, which i dont even see 'fitting'.

im not against considering new modules, just the ones im seeing arent making sense to me how i am thinking about my own concept and how i want improv to flow.

thanks for trying, i guess, but i still stand by that im not getting the feedback was hoped.

peace ✌️


its just, from my point of view, im trying to go for a certain kind of synergy, and none of the feedback i hear is guiding me directly toward more synergy, but instead toward a more typical standard direction, which does not align with the concept as stated. etc. ...

here, how about this, i incorporated even more feedback, put it into a real kind of case i can get, and filled the first 3u row with the bare minimum i could possibly think of. ... ...

how about, to show me more things i should be considering, you attempt to fill in maybe even the full other two rows, which should roughly be within my budget, etcetera. ... ...

up for the challenge of trying to fill this in?

ModularGrid Rack

peace ✌️


vocaloid is to pop music, as modular synthesis is to electronic music.

agree? disagree? thoughts??

peace ✌️

(also, am i crazy or did it really sound like lady gaga used modular synthesis on her latest album?)

((just a regular guy using forums to discuss things. yup. ... ...))


yeah, but id really rather prefer not to have to collect samples and manage sd cards. i love the plonk engine, i wish it could be extended to be able to design 8 voices at once, with some common paramiters you could tweak live, so i could just 'design' a kit all at once right from the case itself. etc.

i think other people would find this useful.

etc. etc. etc.

peace ✌️


check my latest post in racks. i incorporated hella advice. peace. ✌️


no. i could probably get together somewhere around $6,000 eventually for some kind of 'total instrument' one time investment, but the last thread you commented on was not it. the clockwork could not be clocked from the pamela's workout, and other issues. i would need to feel great about a design before i committed and i still dont feel absolutely great about any of the rack layouts i have on here yet. check out my latest thread in the racks subforum which has something much closer to final i would like you to give more feedback on, please.

peace ✌️


Seems like a random collection of modules in a random placement.
It'll make noises, but as an instrument, it's unclear what you're after, beyond a display of stuff you want.
-- noodle_hut

this was just before i found out that the strange-r bighat existed. i was trying to do exactly what it does, more or less, as a concept, but just then i found out there was something that did this and so much more. kind of a synchronicity that i was trying to design essentially just this before i found it. im used to forums where threads get 20 replies in a day, etcetera. the bugs i was experiencing were probably just on my android phone, mostly, and probably not actually an indication that all the forum software is wrong. it just seems like there is no real guide to get started in modular, and, imho, just posting on this forum doesnt seems like as much of a spring board as it could be if things were more active on here. im going through my own personal stuff right now. just... not seeming to receive enough real time feedback, like i would expect from an active global forum, was just an added discomfort to my situation. etc.

sorry. all my accounts are messed up. i dont receive notifications like im supposed to. i have to check all the forums manually, etc.

peace out ✌️✌️


like i said, im trying to condense some space,

so one thing that would really help me there would be:

a plonk style module, where you configure a whole kit, and it only takes 8 triggers in, and has 8 audio outs, with a bonus summed out, and no other bells and whistles at all. ... ... ...

i dont know of anything just lile that, just like an 8 mono channel trigger only sampler, but with a plonk style engine, in the smallest footprint possible, with zero cv dynamics.

i dont know if there is anyone that wants to build exactly this, but something like thar i would find helpful to my current "design" efforts. idk. maybe intellij likes the idea. ...

peace ✌️


im working on some concepts,

and the idea comes to mind,

for an "pamela's extreme workout": ...

that is twice the width, has a full square screen, has buttons per out that default to mute but are assignable, has menu options for clock multiplication and division that can get it to work just like a clocky, has some kind of menu configuration where you can program trigger sequences like a mandala, and also options to quickly load in standard and savable drum sequence configurations,

so on top of everything else, it can be 100% a go to drum sequencer for any setup, maybe with some generative randomness thrown in for good measure, and 3 5 7 divisions, too.

just trying to clean up some of my "designs" and i think something lile this would really help. ... ... as in: "hey, how about even more menus?" etc. ... just a suggestion of course...

peace ✌️


i have been trying to design a configuration that: 1. is completely self contained. 2. allows for live improvisation. 3. can handle key shifts and advanced drum sequencing.

i think i have something that you all might agree meets those "three bullet points", etc. ...

ModularGrid Rack

i realize my last attempt had some flaws.

would really like some constructive criticism beyond 'disagreeing with my three criteria'...

thanks. ✌️

(edit)

oops, i wasnt paying enough attention. i thought the mandala had a gate in per channel as well. i guess that clocky is kind of redundant, then, but, i had some extra space to fill, though. maybe i have just not found the perfect drum sequencer for me. idk. ...

oh well.

(edit edit)

i guess i could use stackable cables and feed both the clocky and mandala into the assimil8or at the same time that way and this all still makes sense. idk. i just added the clocky to fill space, anyway. idk. idk. idk.


but i 'could' get melodic results from the strange-r and i 'could' get rhythmic results from the clockwork (if the clocking works the way i think) and i have enough modules to fill out all the voicing chains. i feel like the 100hp at the very top of this thread does have good performance flow and the concept isnt being appreciated enough, still, and frankly its hard for me to work out this budgeting, so, tbph, id rather just have a conversation about this design on its own terms, to derive some satisfaction 'ahead' of the time i put it all together to find out if it works etc. it seems like all the advice i have gotten so far has been working against my general concept, instead of trying to steel-man it. like, specific advice, if the clockwork will even accept a clock in, or if i have made a calculation error would be most helpful...

etc. ... ... ... ... ...

peace.

✌️.


we will see. i have not 100% gotten the budgeting in order, etcetera etcetera....

by the way, related to the comments about how overly cluttered my original designs were, check out how much gear is owned by 'renku corporation', lol. check the link: ...

peace ✌️


pythagorean scales are not my favorite, and i prefer a good bit of melodic progression (see: scriabin) but im enjoying this anyway. has almost a 24/7 chill study music vibe. ...

passed this along to a fellow music dude etc.

peace

✌️✌️


hey, zacksname. i fixed the 3rd row just for you, etc.

ModularGrid Rack

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also, i wanted to point out, i came onto this forum with a 4x 12u 100hp concept, and got it down to 1x 3u 100hp (if you only count the 3u 100hp i have any intention of acquiring.)

thats a 16x reduction in complexity. i feel like modulargrid should give me a badge for this.

etcetera. peace.

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the concept is live improvised chordal progressions with a generative element on the strange-r controlling a demon core, and a set of sequences programmed into the clockwork where i can mute each part individually on the sir mix a lot, with full envelope, filter, modulation, and effects chain, with no extra gear needed in any way.

too abstract for you, zacksname? peace ✌️

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also, the concept for the 3rd row is experimenting with the ways the dreamboats can couple together, which is why i have the octasource and joysticks and funny noise module, so i have enough options to explore very deeply into the possible soundscapes i could unlock.

(but it was mostly just a joke. im not sure exactly what i will do with the 3rd row etc.)

peace

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the very first 100hp posted is the core idea.

the third row in the second post was just to "fill" the case i was looking at and was just to experiment and have fun with coupling chaos oscillators. i did not like your new modifications zachsname. i wanted the drum sounds to be just set it and forget it and the 2hp modules do that. also, you dont seem to get what the strange-r does and how it fits into my design + focus on production.

believe me, i know what that 1st 100hp does and i would be happy with it. the third row was kind of a joke. your new design looks like a mess, zacksname ! focus on design.

nobody gets the concept. oh well. peace ✌️.

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i know i dont need the pam, but its the most convenient way to keep the strange-r and clockwork in synch, plus, if i wanted one or the other in double time, pam could do it.

also, zacksname. i was thinking a lot about signal path and cable management that your new version ruined. with the 2hp i can cut out each part with the sir mix a lot mutes.

everything is a compromise and i think i wss making a lot of good ones. you dont have to use any modules. with your new design you were taking away some of the creativity. ...

(why is nobody getting my concepts, etc. ...)

peace ✌️😎✌️.