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For one thing, the anti envelope was never made. And also, make sure you really read up on some of these modules and their issues.

Above all listen to demos. There's a lot of variety in every module, some geared towards dirty sounds, some pristine, some intentionally chaotic that embrace analog flaws whether good or bad, etc.

The 'one manufacturer per row' thing is nice to look at, but you end up limited yourself with choices based solely on hp. If anything, pick 2 decent companies and do 2 rows each. I'm a huge fan of Intellijel and it covers most of my system, but I still space stuff out to be more convenient instead visually aesthetically pleasing.
-- exper

The 'one manufacturer per row' thing is nice to look at, but you end up limited yourself with choices based solely on hp.

That was pretty true for me.

Last night I made an alternate version, changing all the Make Noise to Analogue Systems which I'm still thinking of changing to be more like this

Will probably ditch the 1 per row idea for more cohesion but if there's nothing mechanically wrong with this I might give half of it a shot one day.
Version I did last night:

EDITED May 11th 2016, 19:26

Hey guys,

I am a proud owner of the mother 32 as of recently and plan to go into the wild world of modular systems.
As I am very new to the whole concept would really appreciate to hear your thoughts and comments on this rig I came up with.
The whole idea is to route it to a computer and use external midi controllers as well as cv automation tools and record everything back in the PC.

@bark thanks for the great transaction. Fast delivery, safe packing and good communication.

For one thing, the anti envelope was never made. And also, make sure you really read up on some of these modules and their issues.

Above all listen to demos. There's a lot of variety in every module, some geared towards dirty sounds, some pristine, some intentionally chaotic that embrace analog flaws whether good or bad, etc.

The 'one manufacturer per row' thing is nice to look at, but you end up limited yourself with choices based solely on hp. If anything, pick 2 decent companies and do 2 rows each. I'm a huge fan of Intellijel and it covers most of my system, but I still space stuff out to be more convenient instead visually aesthetically pleasing.

I've never made a modular before, so I just wanted to make sure everything will work. Missing any necessary modules? I'm pretty picky about organization, so each company has their own row. I'm thinking of filling the last row with Make Noise but not sure. Is there anything that would cause the system to just not work at all? Too many of one kind of module? Not enough?

EDITED May 10th 2016, 20:56

a check box to delete multiple message would nice to tidy up the inbox outbox

Hello, I recently stumbled upon modulargrid and its a really great planning tool! Altough I have some suggestions: instead of the drop down menu to choose from a single brand and module type, a checkbox type would be cool. Because I have a limited choice of manufacturers here in germany, so I could like only check doepfer, mfb and some others, but no other manufacturers.
Thank you!

EDITED May 10th 2016, 08:54

Still learning - here is my fledgling system.

Any comments / suggestions appreciated

Best wishes,

headless

bought a analogue solutions SY-02 from @Zigge . Very nice, fast shipping, very good communication and module in perfect shape : all good!!!

I "think" you should be ok. I know I've used an adapter like that in the past, and simply attenuated an output into headphones, so this should be ok level wise. I'm not 100% sure, but there might eventually be a headphone 1u module from intellijel. I know that they have plans for much more in the format.

ah, of course :) but in terms of volume levels?

Well, I think you'd need a stereo to mono adapter for that to work. Otherwise the sound would only come out of 1 ear...

http://www.showmecables.com/product/3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-to-3-5mm-Mono-Plug.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=957&gclid=CIi3n9WHy8wCFdhahgodrqoFOA

would this work as a mono headphone out?

Curious if the Tempi would be redundant for someone who already has a QCD/expander - anybody have a demo of Tempi doing a few tricks?

supa sound !

This new version makes more sense. More like the Buchla or Sputnik ones.

Some really useful refinements. Thanks for sharing the details.

Yes.

First the cv inputs are normalized so that a cv into attack can be sent to both attack and decay.

Next the eoc outputs have been greatly improved and now trigger anything.

And I think the quadrature mode has been simplified.

I can see the cosmetic differences, but are there functional differences between this and the original? Reference: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-quadra-expander

Just in case someone down the line is curious... I ended up getting one to try. I have plenty of power in my case, but it doesn't work. This tile puts out 200ma and the BSP needs 500ma. Bummer.

Open Music Labs now has fully assembled open-source Euro modules available using the x0x-heart (TB303 analogue section replica). Panel re-design by Grayscale. Check out the already funded campaign: https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-music-labs/x0x-heart-eurorack

Currently taking suggestions for stretch goals/product options. Thoughts (some from MW thread): red (blood-coloured) anodized knobs, laser engraved/cut wood panel, full DIY kit version.

MG here: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-x0x-heart-eurorack-module

Features
* CV control of frequency, gate, accent, slide, env-mod, decay, and cut-off
* Switches for waveform selection (square and sawtooth), external/internal oscillator mix
* VCA and VCF outputs

Specs
* Eurorack standard format (3U height)
* 18hp
* ~1.75in depth (45mm)
* +/-12V current draw 10mA
* 5V current draw: 50mA
* 10” Euro power cable (16 pin to 10 pin connector)

Includes
* Black anodized aluminum knobs with a diamond knurl pattern and two set screws (with slot heads and flat points)
* A .063” (1.6mm) highly durable satin aluminum Metalphoto panel with a black print

https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-music-labs/x0x-heart-eurorack

EDITED May 5th 2016, 01:01

This will be my very first modular rack. So I'd really appreciate some advice from the more experienced guys on this forum.
The idea was that I'd be able to run polyphonic (4 voices) sequences, but still have a lot of modulation possibilities. Since I have zero experience in the modular world (apart from researching for some months. I have a lot of experience with software synths though) I'm afraid of design flaws in the rack I'm planning. For example whether there a too little VCAs in my rack, which makes it unusable. I'd be glad if some of you gave their opinions.

Yep, had a very easy and quick buying experience with Junk Rhythm. Thanks!

I had a perfect transaction with @jdev earlier today. We met in person and everything was super smooth from start to finish. Thank you!

I don't believe it's buffered. Or if it is, I read lots of complaints that it still has signal loss. And buffering has nothing to do with loudness. It preserves the output voltage levels when send to destinations such as mults.
-- exper

ur right, i mean CV power not loudness :D
thx....for tha reply

I don't believe it's buffered. Or if it is, I read lots of complaints that it still has signal loss. And buffering has nothing to do with loudness. It preserves the output voltage levels when send to destinations such as mults.

A potential buyer of this modul found a information about the slew, i not found.
is it buffered or unbuffered?
is buffered better because loudness compensation?

Thx
Cheers...

Had a smooth and easy transaction with @solipsistnation. Thanks!

Putting together a collaborative percussive type rig to skiff out of my larger case.
This seems like a nice set up to "pop out" of my 9u.

I just had very pleasant experiences buying from jdev and Junk Rhythm.

-- solipsistnation

Thank you for the kind words. @solipsistnation was great to deal with. Excellent communication and prompt.

EDITED May 3rd 2016, 06:02

I just had very pleasant experiences buying from jdev and Junk Rhythm.

I guess you could refer to sequencing as discrete modulation, steps of defined value executed in order (typically used for pitch) whereas folks often prefer continuous, smooth value changes for modulation - e.g. for flowing changes in timbre / tone color.

If you really want to go modular I'd suggest to sell the Sub 37 and get a Moog Mother instead. I did the same and couldn't be any happier with the choice. The Sub has very limited capabilities to connect to a modular system (the CV inputs are limited to filter, pitch, volume and gate).

Imho sequencing is a specific type of modulation. so.. both?

Hello all,
I have been working on my modular, and I have a nice case built that stands over the top of the MS-20 mini. I then picked up an original Arp Odyssey, that is loads of fun. The Arp has some useful patch points located on the back. CV, gate, and trig ins and outs. I will be making a eurorack panel that holds all the patch points of the Arp, so they will be right in front of me, and it will look cool too. This is my current set of modules that I have, and I am looking for some feedback on the next one I should get. I usually prefer to build DIY kits when they are available. Thanks for your input.

thanks for additional info haha, def noted and added to the rack. any recommendations for the case other than the Moog stuff? something decently priced...
-- abesirevic

also, here are some cheap modules that do some cool stuff:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/music-thing-modular-radio-music
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/music-thing-modular-turing-machine-mk-ii
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/expert-sleepers-disting
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/synthrotek-echo
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/ryo-optodist

this is where modular synths get good!

i highly reccomend getting that 3 tier moog rack, and just starting out with the stuff you have there, and i have a reason for that:

people describe getting a new module feeling like its a entirly new synth. if you bought the modules you have setup on your rack, youll have room left to order more in the future.

if you just order everything at once, you wont have any more room for more modules. and eventually, you'll grow bored of it.

so order modules over time, not all at once.

as for price, its tough to find a good quailty piece of equiptment at a decent price. but ive been researching for months for the best prices, and the 2 cheapest brands of modules (while still having great quality) is EMW and ladik.

EMW has about everything you need. They are cheaply priced and offer good sounds, which is good if you're on a budget.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=&SearchVendor=154&SearchFunction=&SearchSecondaryfunction=&SearchTe=&SearchTemethod=max&SearchBuildtype=a&SearchMarketplace=&SearchIsmodeled=&SearchShowothers=1&SearchShow1u=&order=popular

ladik is even cheaper than EMW, and also has good sound. I have the ladik VCO1 and it sounds pretty fantastic.
HOWEVER! Be note of this: the depth of ladik is huge, this isn't a good thing.

When I mean depth, I mean how far the module goes back. the ladik VCO1 and the filter bank I have are so close to touching the back of my rack, which is really annoying cause it blocks the patch for adding more modules. the only way to prevent that is to have a case that has more depth, which usually isnt too big a problem. heres a picture http://imgur.com/LMQme6z

You can usually check the depth of a module in the specs. In a module info page, it'll usually say "x mm depth"

basically, ladik is great because the most expensive module they have is $134. but they can take up some space, so make sure your case is big enough! https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=&SearchVendor=215&SearchFunction=&SearchSecondaryfunction=&SearchTe=&SearchTemethod=max&SearchBuildtype=a&SearchMarketplace=&SearchIsmodeled=&SearchShowothers=1&SearchShow1u=&order=popular

i know im giving you giant answers for small questions, but I know where your coming from and I want to help as much as possible.

thanks for additional info haha, def noted and added to the rack. any recommendations for the case other than the Moog stuff? something decently priced...

yeah man a couple months ago I was in the same position you were in. took me months to get my head around the powering part.

as for the module, I'd say its pretty good. you have everything you need since you would be able to patch a function from the Mother-32 to any of the other modules. for the roland effect module, if you run your synth through a DAW (like me), you can add digital VST effects (saves $). but if you dont than you can keep it.

only thing I would get differently is the case. get a bigger case than you need. this is because if you ever want to add something new, you won't have room. Meaning the only way to get that new module would to buy another case with another power supply and blah blah. i would get that 3 tier mother-32 rack, just to stay on the safe side.

FYI very important: i noticed you don't have a Output module. this is important because without it, you have no way to connect your synth to an amplifier (the thing that connects to your studio monitors/speakers). the output module I use (and think is fuckin rockin) is the Pittburg OUTS Mk II https://www.modulargrid.net/e/pittsburgh-modular-outs-mk-ii

P.S.: if you dont have an amplifier (like the Scarlett 2i2) connecting to speakers, your synth will basically be a box with knobs.

now, if you were like me, you might be completly lost into getting sound to actually come out of your synth. if you need a complete run down on setting it up, I can tell you. it isnt complicated.

im headin to bed, its 2 AM where im at. ill respond in the mornin.

also, if you need reference to anything, here's my current rack

EDITED Apr 30th 2016, 06:18

thanks for the info. I knew i needed a power module but wasn't sure where to start, so it's awesome you picked up on that. as far as modules go, what do you think?

well you're gonne need a power supply!

power supply works like this: you have a power module (which plugs into a wall), and on the inside of the module there is a flying busboard, with little boxes. when you get a new module, you plug the ribbon cable into that busboard.

now, I am not sure if the Mother-32 has a built in power supply, but it probably doesn't. you're gonna wanna pick up a power supply. the most popular one is the uZeus https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tiptop-audio-uzeus. it has 10 slots for modules.

it is reccomended to be included into 84 HP rack, but if you have 2 rows of 60 HP you should be good.

I want to get the Moog one, and it doesn't seem to have a power supply

are you buying a case with or without a pre built power supply?

I'm just starting out building my rack, but this is what I want to get for now, any thoughts? Thanks!

As seen here :

Thought I could use an extra source to play with my ms20.. could this work? like the resonance of the rings and i'd love the weird delays from the black hole, and lfo would give me nice options to add as well..
I don't think I'm going to need extra space, cause I've got some synths with sequence and arp options and stuff, hoped this would just add another dimension to it

EDITED Apr 28th 2016, 13:05

Picked up a used ripples module and I find that I get incredibly low volume when patching a signal into it. Even when using the VCA output and the gain input I get a very low signal. The other outputs put out a barely audible signal. At the moment, I'm just running Braids through ripples, and ripples to my blue lantern stereoscopic VCO. This is my first filter, and I'm pretty new to eurorack. Any advice? Is there a trim screw to adjust output volume?
Thanks

I'd definitely take one as well if you end up doing a panel run. Thanks!!!

This is a pretty cost effective rack. I'm gonna keep hunting for a good combined VCA/Envelope module to save space and a better midi to sync interface. This is bare bones to get you started.

To broadly generalize - there are versatile bread 'n butter synths oscillators that output the typical sine, tri, saw, sqr - eg: Doepfer A-110, Tiptop 3000, Intellijel Dixie etc. Saw-core or tri-core implementations will generate slightly different wave shapes (visible on an oscillator) and sound slightly different. On the other end of the spectrum there's the specialty ones that use custom wavetables or specific sound generation algorithms to evoke a singular personality e.g. The Harvestman Piston Honda or Donut, Noise Engineering Loquelic Iteratus, Make Noise Telharmonic. Of course there are also modules somewhere in the middle - familiar wave outputs, but some extra functionality or features: Synthesis Technology`s E 350, Make Noise DPO etc.

I highly recommend reviewing as many videos & sound demos as you can to get a feel for sound & functionality and in particular would recommend visiting a specialty modular store (even if a trip is required) to try the stuff in person.

Do not panic about making exactly the right choice - it may not be clear what you will eventually settle down with until you acquire some experience with modular - and there is a great market for used gear so it is pretty easy to trade towards what will eventually become part of your own personalized instrument.

EDITED May 2nd 2016, 19:50