have you looked at the mutant brain (in rack version of cv.ocd) - was hexinverter, now being made by erica synths... it has the 4 cv/gate pairs you want + more gate outputs - so you can use a midi clock for syncing to the computer...

I use a kick sample on an audio track in logic, personally - this will always be 'tighter' than midi clock, due to Operating System priorities, but if you don't use any other software on the computer at the same time and disconnect from wifi etc then you should be fine

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Ok Jim,
Thank You

Foghorn


ModularGrid Rack

Hello gals and guys!
I used to use Betastep Pro, but didn't like it that much. I'm thinking of using MIDI keyboard or hooking my eurorack to MIDI out from my DAW.
Anyone here using (or used) Doepfer A-190-5 or Vermona qMI2? I really like the idea of (relatively) cheap module that can do 4 independent voices. If I play some software synths or samples from DAW along with Eurorack, will they sync?
I'm also open for other suggestions about this PC-Eurorack connection and everything else regarding my setup.
Thank you in advance!


currently you can only swap entire rows. its not possible to move a row to a specific position without messing up the rest of the rack
Edit -> Swap Rows
image

i already made a feature request for moving a row
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/forum/posts/view/39243


What about make noise modules? Those are not knurled..

EDIT: Ah, nut driver they're called. Did not know that.
-- maths
From what I see, makenoise uses "regular" nuts on their jacks. I think they are metric 6 nuts.


What about make noise modules? Those are not knurled..

EDIT: Ah, nut driver they're called. Did not know that.


😍



Hi,

I was wodering what tool (if any) is needed when changing a modules panel. In particular iäm thinking of those small rings/screws/nuts that holds the holes for the patch cables on the front. Any suggestions?


is it possible to move/swap all the modules in a row (all at the same time)?

over:under


go to the home page, scroll down, click on the 'about unicorn accounts' link, scroll down and you should see a paypal button - click on that...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Hi,
what are you talking about ?


How do I pay my dues.
I want to use Paypal.
I am way behind

Thanks, Foghorn


Herbs and Stones took their groove box and made it eurorack capable.
Not much to the build, this is mostly a surface mount kit and all the SMD is already done. So just pots, jacks, and LEDs.

Getting the front panel on was not a breeze, I think they need to look at the height differences between the pots and jacks they use, but in the end it fits.

Long demo section, since I was learning about the unit and the build was so short. The internal clock did not seem to work, but it took external clocking just fine.
OK unit, not sure where I’ll use this.

Build


Ambient, generative. 3 modules, small case.
‘What else?"

-- Sweelinck

Thanks, I was interested in Qu-Bit and this was great.


Ambient, generative. 3 modules, small case.
‘What else?’

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


veils is discontinued. you will go for a clone or secondhand market
-- ferranadsr

Found 2nd hand originals on Ebay here in UK . The Doepfer quad VCA mixer from a site reduced and new for £110, last one in stock. Need to decide on which one though.


-- EuroBadger
imho veils


Cool runnings, prompt comms and delivery with my module purchased from @ogrebattle


veils is discontinued. you will go for a clone or secondhand market
-- ferranadsr

Found 2nd hand originals on Ebay here in UK . The Doepfer quad VCA mixer from a site reduced and new for £110, last one in stock. Need to decide on which one though.


Veils @12hp https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mutable-instruments-veils
or Doepfer a-135 2v Quad VCA / VC Mixer https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-135-2v @8hp.
veils is discontinued. you will go for a clone or secondhand market


-Managing the knobs "physically" is like a drug, once you try it you won't want to use the PC for it
-- ferranadsr

I was not planning to use pc other than for audio to speakers, on recieving the items I have bought I might be producing no sounds at all at this point! Managing the knobs and patching generative and seeing where we go is the goal and its exciting.

As far as effects I am unsure, although listening to Qu-Bit modules has been a great experience.

Again huge thank you to you all - the advice/knowledge has been taken onboard - I am looking for a VCA currently steering towards
Veils @12hp https://www.modulargrid.net/e/mutable-instruments-veils
or Doepfer a-135 2v Quad VCA / VC Mixer https://www.modulargrid.net/e/doepfer-a-135-2v @8hp.


I like that @Sweelinck, thank you!

@Niemandsland feedback patching is pretty tricky, the smallest adjustments in amplitude can cascade and get too loud or descend into silence. I need to get better at that but I'm glad you enjoyed it!


From what you say I understand that you will use MIDI to take both clock and CV from the computer to the case. You can use VCV Rack to generate the main clock and bring in some CV signals to modulate. You can start like this, of course, but keep in mind that:
-Managing the knobs "physically" is like a drug, once you try it you won't want to use the PC for it.
-To experiment in the field of generative and ambient, an effects module will give you many possibilities. I wouldn't know which one to recommend, since I'm not really into that field yet.
-Sooner rather than later you are going to need EG's, LFO's and VCA's, apart from additional utilities. Prioritize them before additional voices.


Thanks for spending the time to advise - it seems that even at this early stage I have not made the best choices as far as what I have purchased.

That's entirely normal and part of the exploration! Because that's what modular is. You don't buy a prefab instrument that goes "pling" when you pull a string or press a key. You buy a rack because you'll be adding modules as you explore the possibilities of synthesis.

The initail idea was to begin with 2 or 3 modules that would produce sounds that i could explore, have fun and expand on.
-- EuroBadger

Yeah, but as indicated above, 2-3 modules are very, very limited. It's like getting a small box of regular Lego blocks. Sure, you can build a little house with a basic roof. Roof tiles, wheels for a car, little men, ... All of those are extra purchases. Here too: Plaits is a very good starting point because of the built-in trigger. So learn it, then when you consider your next step (add a second sound at the same time? add drums? add an effect?), add modules. I started with I think just under 10 modules, just to get a few sounds going.


I like it, especialy from the 7 minute mark when the sound lures me deeper into this sonic landscape (love this part, could stay here a lot longer). The transition back to the surface (14;30 and beyond) could (according to my taste) be longer and smoother. But hey I am already glad that you brought me back to the surface :-). If it was longer and smoother it would be a great piece to meditate to. Thanx for sharing!


Thanks for spending the time to advise - it seems that even at this early stage I have not made the best choices as far as what I have purchased.

The Niftycase for it's price although small was classed as a beginner case and with enough conections, including plugging into pc with later a module going to the "to out" on the front of the case. It has its own power and looked like everything you need to start your eurorack adventures apart from the modules. Bigger cases would be great and I have seen some that I would have loved to have bought such as the Rackbrute (thanks Arrandan for pointing out the "Mantis"). But I am happy to upgrade over time and evolve as my knowledge/modules increase.

The initail idea was to begin with 2 or 3 modules that would produce sounds that i could explore, have fun and expand on.

I will look at Veils and it's clone forms, thankyou...I imagine doing it properly (quad) rather than a dual such as the ALA https://reverb.com/uk/item/38278842-after-later-audio-dvca-dual-vca-veils-redesigned-module

This has become quite an adventure already...


Hi, Welcome,
I am also relatively new, a little over a year ago.
More than suggesting specific modules, I am going to give you some opinions and suggestions.
-Case point. It's a shame you already have the case, 3U 84HP is a very limited space. Surely in a short time you will have to choose to expand. I wanted to start with 3U 104HP, in the end I started with 6U 104HP and a few months ago I added 3U 104hp more. They are not full at all, maybe 70%.
-Brains point. I am not a fan of brand B but what I can tell you is to avoid "reduced" modules. If you go for MI clones, you better try to buy them in the original size.
-Next module point. I am not sure which clock you are going to use to trigger both the VCO and the sequencer...
In your case, and to have as many functions as possible, I would recommend Pamela's NEW Workout.
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/alm-busy-circuits-alm017-pamela-s-new-workout
A single module that offers you clock and modulation functions. In the second-hand market you can find this version at a very good price.
For me this would be the next module, with a Veils type VCA.
The clones are at a good price.
For example https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tlm-audio-vacs-veils-2-clone
Now to continue you will surely need function generators (Maths, Rampage or similar), effects (important for generative and ambient), matrix mixer, LFO's (Batumi,...), and surely incorporate another voice, perhaps an MI Rings (a classic), or a complex VCO.
Money money money...


Welcome to the forum! Others will chime in as well but first - get a bigger case. Mantis gets advised often as it's pretty good value for money. You can say now you want to start small. But a modular setup grows and you'll be happy not to be stuck in 84hp after a few months. I can vouch for that - I wanted to start in 84hp and I'm at around 400hp now, a year and a half into it.

Then, about how modular works. To get a note, you need a trigger (note NOW please) and a note value. The Ladik 610 will give you some note values from the CV out. But it also needs a trigger in. So you'll need a clock source and/or sequencer of some kind. Take a look at Pamela's New Workout (or Pro Workout). It features a clock and several kinds of organised triggers. Call it a clock-and-sequencer if you like.

So now you have your Plaits clone getting a trigger and a note value. The good thing with Plaits is that it can take a trigger - it saves you some complexity of adding VCAs and envelope generators. Plaits output isn't ready to listen to, though. How are you going to listen? Headphones? Connect to the line in of an amp or powered speakers? In any case, you'll need an output module. I started with the Befaco Out, which I thought was a good little module. There's plenty of others, like the higher end Joranalogue Transmit 2 in case you need XLR out (you probably don't).

With those 4, you'll have a basic setup: triggering notes, setting the tone, and sending it out. You still don't have filters or effects. And with other oscillators, you'll need VCAs and envelopes. And there's a billion options for sequencing as well, internal as well as external (Beatstep Pro is a good starting place for an external sequencer for modular). But if you want to start really small, it will work fine and give you plenty to explore.


Hello all, I'm a complete beginner, who over the last few months has spent a huge amount of time watching videos, checking out posts and some VCV rack. There is alot to take in if this is all new to you plus a huge range of modules to choose from.

So if you could point me in the right direction (as I could get totally lost) and advise on starter options, that would be a huge help.

I am looking to build an ambient set up, generative is of interest to me too.

Set up so far
Cre8Audio - Niftycase 84hp
Behringer brains - MI Plaits clone ( already feel After Later Audio Beehive would be better & less hp)
Ladik S-610 Composser N - random sequencer.

Not much space but can't wait to start making some sounds and having fun - Module number 3? what should it be...

Thanks in advance for anyone who can advise.


Long and peaceful like the Brooklyn Bridge.

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


In a continuation of my monomaniacal focus on feedback patching, I re-did a recent piece of mine, extending it and shifting the perspective a bit. The mixing isn't quite perfect, but with headphones there's quite a bit going on while also nothing really happens... I think it turned out pretty sweet and I'd love to hear what you all think.

Made with:

ModularGrid Rack


I much appreciate your feedback! :)

I am inspired by birth, death and the events inbetween.

https://youtube.com/@aphewgoodman


thanks again folks. I have purchased an FX Aid XL It should arrive on Tuesday. I'm sure it will make me sound 100 times better ;).


Thank you! I love remote collaboration, and our collective experience during the pandemic has opened our imaginations for what is possible out of neccesity. Now that we're playing live again, I think the online compenent is here to stay.


Congratulations on achieving this collaboration remotely! We can only applaud. Special and personal mention for the fast synth sequences (e.g. 0:39).

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


sounds like it's time for, the inevitable, case no. 2 then!
-- JimHowell1970

No way! :) I feel like even this sized case us too big for my Very Small Brain to handle.

-- ModLifeCrisis

hahahaha, it's tiny!!!

I have about 1800hp of cases...

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Hard bargain...
Our last word: FX Aid XL (6hp) + your Make Noise Blank (4hp).
Give me five!
-- Sweelinck


Hard bargain...
Our last word: FX Aid XL (6hp) + your Make Noise Blank (4hp).
Give me five!

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


sounds like it's time for, the inevitable, case no. 2 then!
-- JimHowell1970

No way! :) I feel like even this sized case us too big for my Very Small Brain to handle.


Thanks for your replies everyone. The FX Aid Pro looks good but is 14hp (I think), so too big for me. I suppose I could chuck my ALM SBG in there and use a pedal but I do like the idea of everything being in the case. I'm also considering the Doepfer Spring but I'm not sure whether it would fit in the Make Noise case once it is wired up.
-- ModLifeCrisis

sounds like it's time for, the inevitable, case no. 2 then!

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities


Thanks for your replies everyone. The FX Aid Pro looks good but is 14hp (I think), so too big for me. I suppose I could chuck my ALM SBG in there and use a pedal but I do like the idea of everything being in the case. I'm also considering the Doepfer Spring but I'm not sure whether it would fit in the Make Noise case once it is wired up.


Thread: &Y

A dark jam.
18 months in after getting bitten by the modular bug

&Y


Nice work :)

Enjoy your spare HP, don't rush to fill every last space, this is not like filling sticker books. Resist the urge to 'complete' your rack, its never complete so just relax.

https://youtube.com/@wishbonebrewery


Love the dark vibe and excellent soundcapture as well!


So, I connected with a drum and bass artist from Germany named ?BREAK ERROR and we swapped files back and forth for a few months. This is what came out of it. We really love it and would appreciate any thoughts:


Can anyone tell me, if this is a modded version of the Doepfer Theremin? Tell me more please :D


Sounds great! Thanks for sharing.
-- farkas

Thank you :)

I am inspired by birth, death and the events inbetween.

https://youtube.com/@aphewgoodman


Yes. Wrote a PM.

Beep, Bopp, Bleep: info@modulargrid.net


@ModLifeCrisis If you are aiming for dreamy soundscapes EarthQuaker Devices Afterneath would be a great option. Unfortunately the module is a 16hp... On the other hand there is the pedal. I’ve been using it for a long time. And if I hardly publish anything, this time I have a little example.
O-Coast > Afterneath pedal :)

@JimHowell1970 +1 for FX Aid, and +1 for your t-shirt :))

'On ne devrait jamais quitter Montauban' (Fernand Naudin).
https://soundcloud.com/petrus-major/tracks


Hi - thanks for your reply. People do amazing things with the BIA but it's not the sort of sound I'm after. I'm aiming for dreamy soundscapes that can modulate and evolve, which is why I was considering the MFX. Thinking about it, the reverb from Noise Engineering might be another option...

-- ModLifeCrisis

I'm not sure that anyone would associtate Noise Engineering with dreamy soundscapes - it can be done, from what I've heard, but it wouldn't be my first point of call...

I own 1 NE modules, the zularic repetitor (which I think is an excellent module) and am currently wearing an NE t-shirt

I'd also look at the fx aid pro as an alternative to the MFX (latest firmware has a scope) and has way more algoritms - claims to include a tuner - but it seems to be more like a pitch to tune to - I use a pedal tuner myself, but a phone app would be just as good (or most DAWS include them)

"some of the best base-level info to remember can be found in Jim's sigfile" @Lugia

Utility modules are the dull polish that makes the shiny modules actually shine!!!

sound sources < sound modifiers < modulation sources < utilities